Stonepark Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, oowee said: Balance is what most of us want. Happy with prosperity, happy with profit but not at the expense of those less fortunate, disenfranchised. The country needs labour for balance following the disaster government we currently have. Our political system requires politics to flip as often as possible to maintain some measure of balance. If i recall you were the one that thought Trump and Boris had some merit. 🤣 It's often not about the colour of the party but the organisation within it. Starmer is making all the right noises to have a decent crack at change. That said he is unlikely to abolish the lords, get rid of first past the post, overhaul the NHS, tackle the war between Russia and Europe, resolve the Brexit disaster (maybe he will try). Meanwhile..... The rest of Europe is moving to a war time footing. Given the tories are not exactly right wing and the Tories/Labour and Libdems all occupy the centre to the centre left, it is funny that your idea of balance is to go further to the left? As bad as the Tories are, Labour are worse and will make matters worse. Whether trying to rejoin the EU, Net Zero, DEI, etc etc etc 5 Years of labour will put not the Tories in charge, but Reform, as people realise they were duped by all the centralist parties, the question is whether there will be a country left to govern at that point. If you want a rich country, you need cheap energy, beacuse after all, money is only a fiat store of work(energy). The reason as a country it is going to #### is that none of the centralist politicaians can grasp that fact! Reform does to a limited extent and that is growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 8 hours ago, Stonepark said: Given the tories are not exactly right wing and the Tories/Labour and Libdems all occupy the centre to the centre left, it is funny that your idea of balance is to go further to the left? As bad as the Tories are, Labour are worse and will make matters worse. Whether trying to rejoin the EU, Net Zero, DEI, etc etc etc 5 Years of labour will put not the Tories in charge, but Reform, as people realise they were duped by all the centralist parties, the question is whether there will be a country left to govern at that point. If you want a rich country, you need cheap energy, beacuse after all, money is only a fiat store of work(energy). The reason as a country it is going to #### is that none of the centralist politicaians can grasp that fact! Reform does to a limited extent and that is growing The current rise of labour is a reflection of a dissatisfaction with the tories. The opposite was true of the last swing to the Tories. It is what the UK needs to keep things somewhere in the centre whilst we get to grips with our diminishing world role. Looking across Europe there is a rise in right wing anti immigration politics much of which is funded by Russia. Russia is winning the information war is winning by sowing the seeds of discontent. I am sure Reform will no doubt be on the same trajectory. The problem for the extremes of politics is holding the position together coupled with the lack of any positive offer. A great example (I hope) is the collapse and infighting of the Ultra MAGA position in the states. We have to hope that the current galvanising of the European politicians and the shift to a war time footing, together with the grinding sanctions, will be enough to hold the Russian advance. At least for now until Biden can get additional resources released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 It is a quantum leap in logic to suggest that Russia is behind anti-immigration feelings. Perhaps it could be people reacting to increases in crime - both petty and serious. Perhaps people see the homeless out on the street, whilst seeing illegals put up in hotels, but demanding houses. Perhaps they weary of seeing the Navy or RNLI welcoming rubber dinghies, which seem to be mainly young males, with mobile phones. Perhaps they read of the massive increase in gun crime in Sweden and worry that could happen here - as if it isn't happening already. Overrun NHS services - I suppose that is down to Russia too. Blaming Russia, who are hardly squeaky clean, is simplistic rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 I think you would be naive to think that Russia and others would not play on these thing to the maximum though. They are stirring the pot, of that I have no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 24 minutes ago, 39TDS said: I think you would be naive to think that Russia and others would not play on these thing to the maximum though. They are stirring the pot, of that I have no doubt. It's entirely feasible that Russia funds the dinghy immigrants to thin out UK's and Europe's patriotic military personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Gordon R said: It is a quantum leap in logic to suggest that Russia is behind anti-immigration feelings. Perhaps it could be people reacting to increases in crime - both petty and serious. Perhaps people see the homeless out on the street, whilst seeing illegals put up in hotels, but demanding houses. Perhaps they weary of seeing the Navy or RNLI welcoming rubber dinghies, which seem to be mainly young males, with mobile phones. Perhaps they read of the massive increase in gun crime in Sweden and worry that could happen here - as if it isn't happening already. Overrun NHS services - I suppose that is down to Russia too. Blaming Russia, who are hardly squeaky clean, is simplistic rubbish. Sadly true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, oowee said: We have to hope that the current galvanising of the European politicians and the shift to a war time footing, together with the grinding sanctions, will be enough to hold the Russian advance. At least for now until Biden can get additional resources released. The Russians are out producing the entire West on something like a 3 to 1 ratio in artillery shells, 8 to 1 in large missiles and 10 to 1 in drones, not to mention tanks, bombs, aircraft etc To do that the Russians have reactivated their mothballed factories and moved current ones to three shifts (24 hour working) all the whilst, the Western politicians are still only trying to persuade businesses to apply for new bank loans to build from scratch new factories to produce more munitions in 2026 to 2028 if at all. £61b from USA will not conjure up troops, arms and weapons that do not exist. As to Western sanctions, they have simply made Russia wealthier and more self reliant...... how is more of the same going to change matters. 6 billion people are still trading with Russia and have normal trade relationships with them, Western markets have been replaced to no negative effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 I read today that the west - Germany and more - are supplying Russia with explosive components, despite alleged blocking of exports. Business appears to be booming, with only soldiers and civilians on both sides suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 2 Author Report Share Posted April 2 On 29/03/2024 at 14:22, oowee said: That's why we need to keep the BBC. 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 On 30/03/2024 at 13:57, Gordon R said: I read today that the west - Germany and more - are supplying Russia with explosive components, despite alleged blocking of exports. Hostile (on paper) to Russia western companies are supplying all kinds of components to them, and in return Russian oil and gas are finding their way back, despite sanctions, and the EU price cap on oil, Russian exports in fossil fuels have barely been affected. On 30/03/2024 at 13:57, Gordon R said: Business appears to be booming, with only soldiers and civilians on both sides suffering. No arms manufacturer goes hungry during a conflict, its peace they fear. With Ukraine rapidly losing ground and nearly out of ammunition for artillery, and very little high end SAM capability left, yet still no attempt to call a ceasefire, or negotiate an end to this war. There are voices in the US talking about NEXT years Ukrainian counter offensive, and what arms could be delivered in the 2026-27 campaign season ! Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 (edited) 8 hours ago, Penelope said: 🤣🤣🤣 Laugh all you like. The right says the BBC is left. The left say it is right. The majority of the News desk reporters are from right leaning journalist sources. They are of course not allowed to express a view. 6 hours ago, Rewulf said: Hostile (on paper) to Russia western companies are supplying all kinds of components to them, and in return Russian oil and gas are finding their way back, despite sanctions, and the EU price cap on oil, Russian exports in fossil fuels have barely been affected. No arms manufacturer goes hungry during a conflict, its peace they fear. With Ukraine rapidly losing ground and nearly out of ammunition for artillery, and very little high end SAM capability left, yet still no attempt to call a ceasefire, or negotiate an end to this war. There are voices in the US talking about NEXT years Ukrainian counter offensive, and what arms could be delivered in the 2026-27 campaign season ! Madness. At least where its happening the Russians are paying a premium for the benefit. Mark up on mark up. Legal cases on some of those exports are starting to happen. Russia is doing so well on it's fuel exports that it has blocked the sale of diesel. On it's crude it's trading in Yuan and even this is now suspect with secondary sanctions against China banks. Ukraine is not rapidly loosing ground and the cost of advance to Russia, where it happens, is extreme. If you are following Andrew Perpetua, he is documenting loses at 7 to 1 visually confirmed. There can be no ceasefire only a Ukraine win. If Russia wins we will all be shedding blood. Edited April 2 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 My heart says I hope Ukraine prevails, but I just don't see it. Most of the media seem to reluctantly accept it is not going well for the Ukraine. "Only a Ukraine win" is putting all your eggs in one dodgy basket. Unless Putin is ousted, I think they are going to have to accept that territory which has been won by Russia is going to stay with Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 11 minutes ago, Gordon R said: My heart says I hope Ukraine prevails, but I just don't see it. Most of the media seem to reluctantly accept it is not going well for the Ukraine. "Only a Ukraine win" is putting all your eggs in one dodgy basket. Unless Putin is ousted, I think they are going to have to accept that territory which has been won by Russia is going to stay with Russia. ^^^^^^ This. Not sure Putin's demise will be enough looking at the FSB grooming of replacements. The attrition of Russian cannon fodder is unreal and it's clear that that much of the munition fire rate (apart from artillery) is limited to production rates. Maybe there is hope from within Russian society standing together against their own slaughter. The only good we can hope from this is that we are seeing a far stronger European commitment to self defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, oowee said: Russia is doing so well on it's fuel exports that it has blocked the sale of diesel. On it's crude it's trading in Yuan and even this is now suspect with secondary sanctions against China banks The EU bought a billion quids worth directly , despite they're own ban, there's likely plenty more going in through the back door. They sell crude to 3rd parties like India and Turkey, who then sell it back to us, the 'crippling' sanctions have bothered Russia not a jot. 3 hours ago, oowee said: Ukraine is not rapidly loosing ground and the cost of advance to Russia, where it happens, is extreme. If you are following Andrew Perpetua, he is documenting loses at 7 to 1 visually confirmed I find it odd that this 7 to 1 figure is quoted so often, if every Ukrainian soldier kills 7 Russians, it shouldn't be long before all Russians are dead? 3 hours ago, oowee said: There can be no ceasefire only a Ukraine win. If Russia wins we will all be shedding blood Neither will win , and once Ukraine grows a pair and stops being manipulated by the US, maybe they can negotiate a settlement, until then , more death , more economic ruin , while MIC order books and shares sky rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, oowee said: ^^^^^^ This. Not sure Putin's demise will be enough looking at the FSB grooming of replacements. The attrition of Russian cannon fodder is unreal and it's clear that that much of the munition fire rate (apart from artillery) is limited to production rates. Maybe there is hope from within Russian society standing together against their own slaughter. The only good we can hope from this is that we are seeing a far stronger European commitment to self defence. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ukraine has lost over 1/2million soldiers so far, Russia is still sub 100,000 and those figure track with the American funded and supported data collection organisation (i.e. not Russian figures but Western). Approx 96% of casualties are being caused by bombs, artillary and mines with only 4% being rifle bullets. Again for repetition, the Russian aim is not to take ground at this stage, it is to demilitarise ukraine and reduce it's army to a non-capable fighting force by grinding it down and killing large numbers of troops which is what they are doing. Russia has something like 300,000 bombs in warehouses , and is dropping 100 plus FAB's (Glide bombs from 1000lb to 6000lb) per day, Russia is firing up to 20,000 shells a day and hundreds of drones, they are clearly producing sufficient hypersonic and cruise missles that they have no issue in using them liberally as well as long range drones. whilst Ukraine is firing up to 3000 shells a day, no bombs and a couple hundred drones, , Ukraine has virtually no anti aircraft missles left (or units left to fire them), down to last few dozen stormshadow/scalp missles, few aircraft and fewer and fewer artillary pieces as they are eliminated at a rate of 5 to 10 a day. As for the Russian people, they are solidly behind Putin, of whom 40% even think he is being too soft on Ukraine and would sanction using tactical nukes to 'solve' the Ukrainian Nazi terrorist problem permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 38 minutes ago, Stonepark said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ukraine has lost over 1/2million soldiers so far, Russia is still sub 100,000 and those figure track with the American funded and supported data collection organisation (i.e. not Russian figures but Western). Approx 96% of casualties are being caused by bombs, artillary and mines with only 4% being rifle bullets. Again for repetition, the Russian aim is not to take ground at this stage, it is to demilitarise ukraine and reduce it's army to a non-capable fighting force by grinding it down and killing large numbers of troops which is what they are doing. Russia has something like 300,000 bombs in warehouses , and is dropping 100 plus FAB's (Glide bombs from 1000lb to 6000lb) per day, Russia is firing up to 20,000 shells a day and hundreds of drones, they are clearly producing sufficient hypersonic and cruise missles that they have no issue in using them liberally as well as long range drones. whilst Ukraine is firing up to 3000 shells a day, no bombs and a couple hundred drones, , Ukraine has virtually no anti aircraft missles left (or units left to fire them), down to last few dozen stormshadow/scalp missles, few aircraft and fewer and fewer artillary pieces as they are eliminated at a rate of 5 to 10 a day. As for the Russian people, they are solidly behind Putin, of whom 40% even think he is being too soft on Ukraine and would sanction using tactical nukes to 'solve' the Ukrainian Nazi terrorist problem permanently. Just out of interest is this still a ‘special military operation’ rooting out cocaine dealing Nazis and over by tea time? 😆 When either side digs in it’s drawn out and bloody and that’s where we are. Modern wars are not meant to be won. I dismay at European countries and their ineffective leaders. All the left leaning intelligentsia bleating about how Trump has undermined Nato but Trump isn’t even president and they give no credence to the US population not giving two monkeys about a European conflict 6000 miles away. Indeed, I reckon the yanks are not unreasonably sick of being the world’s police force (expensive and thankless task that is) and whilst they’re still on the hook for looking after Taiwan and keeping North Korea and China at bay. The EU has failed in its single primary purpose and the EU member nations have all mooched on their nato subs and used that money saved to boost their own economies. Those pigeons are now coming home to Roost. The French grandstanding is laughable in the face of their delivering f-all in terms of actual military support. The Germans are a couple of years behind the curve but are slowly waking up despite still being dependant on Russian energy which they now buy rebadged through Indian intermediaries. Those neighbouring Russia are doubling military aid and production, rightly concerned they’ll be next and hence the scramble to join NATO. Putin is a murderous invading despot and Europe is run by cretins. Lastly, the left’s claims that Putin is swaying popular opinion within Europe towards nationalism and the right is just nauseating- how deliberately blind to the effects of failed liberal policies and uncontrolled mass immigration and all the joys that has brought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Stonepark said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ukraine has lost over 1/2million soldiers so far, Russia is still sub 100,000 and those figure track with the American funded and supported data collection organisation (i.e. not Russian figures but Western). Approx 96% of casualties are being caused by bombs, artillary and mines with only 4% being rifle bullets. Again for repetition, the Russian aim is not to take ground at this stage, it is to demilitarise ukraine and reduce it's army to a non-capable fighting force by grinding it down and killing large numbers of troops which is what they are doing. Russia has something like 300,000 bombs in warehouses , and is dropping 100 plus FAB's (Glide bombs from 1000lb to 6000lb) per day, Russia is firing up to 20,000 shells a day and hundreds of drones, they are clearly producing sufficient hypersonic and cruise missles that they have no issue in using them liberally as well as long range drones. whilst Ukraine is firing up to 3000 shells a day, no bombs and a couple hundred drones, , Ukraine has virtually no anti aircraft missles left (or units left to fire them), down to last few dozen stormshadow/scalp missles, few aircraft and fewer and fewer artillary pieces as they are eliminated at a rate of 5 to 10 a day. As for the Russian people, they are solidly behind Putin, of whom 40% even think he is being too soft on Ukraine and would sanction using tactical nukes to 'solve' the Ukrainian Nazi terrorist problem permanently. This is so clearly not the case. If it were Putin would have no need for the 150k mobilisation just listed. Even Russia confirms 300k dead. If there were a surplus of munitions Russia would use them but it cant so it has not got the supplies. The latest stuff taken out has been made in the last few days. They are running out of reserves and stock piles. Doubt the data just look at the video count. Only this week a 100 armoured taken out in just two days. The numbers are there. Trying to demilitarise Ukraine is like trying to take out Hamas. One down and 2 in its place. Trump is a Putin puppet and truth central now owned by byte dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red696 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 13 hours ago, Stonepark said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ukraine has lost over 1/2million soldiers so far, Russia is still sub 100,000 and those figure track with the American funded and supported data collection organisation (i.e. not Russian figures but Western). Approx 96% of casualties are being caused by bombs, artillary and mines with only 4% being rifle bullets. Again for repetition, the Russian aim is not to take ground at this stage, it is to demilitarise ukraine and reduce it's army to a non-capable fighting force by grinding it down and killing large numbers of troops which is what they are doing. Russia has something like 300,000 bombs in warehouses , and is dropping 100 plus FAB's (Glide bombs from 1000lb to 6000lb) per day, Russia is firing up to 20,000 shells a day and hundreds of drones, they are clearly producing sufficient hypersonic and cruise missles that they have no issue in using them liberally as well as long range drones. whilst Ukraine is firing up to 3000 shells a day, no bombs and a couple hundred drones, , Ukraine has virtually no anti aircraft missles left (or units left to fire them), down to last few dozen stormshadow/scalp missles, few aircraft and fewer and fewer artillary pieces as they are eliminated at a rate of 5 to 10 a day. As for the Russian people, they are solidly behind Putin, of whom 40% even think he is being too soft on Ukraine and would sanction using tactical nukes to 'solve' the Ukrainian Nazi terrorist problem permanently. 🤣 Are you still spouting? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 (edited) 13 hours ago, oowee said: This is so clearly not the case. If it were Putin would have no need for the 150k mobilisation just listed. Even Russia confirms 300k dead. If there were a surplus of munitions Russia would use them but it cant so it has not got the supplies. The latest stuff taken out has been made in the last few days. They are running out of reserves and stock piles. Doubt the data just look at the video count. Only this week a 100 armoured taken out in just two days. The numbers are there. The problem here is you are taking propaganda as verified factual news. Ive searched extensively for this 'Russia confirms 300k dead' 'fact' and the closest I can get is this.https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23511 Yet even Zelensky does not confirm this figure, and using some supernatural power 'estimates' 180k killed.As of March 1, 2024, Russian combat losses amount to 414,680 troops, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. During the press conference on February 25, 2024, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also specified that a total of 180,000 Russians have been killed in Russia's full-scale war against Ukraine.5 Mar 2024 NATO estimates , again likely biased, claim 300k casualties, ie killed OR wounded. Zelensky claims 31000 Ukrainian troops killed, so if we take the Ukrainians word for it , 1 UKR to 10 Russians ? Do you honestly think this is true ? Despite the accepted fact that most deaths and injuries on this battlefield being caused by explosive trauma, and the Russians having overwhelming superiority in this ? More objective sources estimate around 200k dead on each side, but unless you have direct access to each sides command structure, these figures could easily be wrong. 13 hours ago, oowee said: Trump is a Putin puppet and truth central now owned by byte dance. Again , its just propaganda, there is NO evidence to support it. Ask yourself, would this war have even happened if Trump was still in power ? Its Biden who had the close links to Ukraine, not Trump having close links to Russia. 13 hours ago, Mungler said: Lastly, the left’s claims that Putin is swaying popular opinion within Europe towards nationalism and the right is just nauseating- how deliberately blind to the effects of failed liberal policies and uncontrolled mass immigration and all the joys that has brought. Putin is not a 'good guy' , its true to say hes a despot, a dictator, but western ideas of painting him as the devil incarnate get a bit wild at times. The problem isnt Putin though, its the fact that Russia sits on vast quantities of oil and gas, and the US doesnt like this. The point of supporting Ukraine, was to neuter Russias ability to sell these resources to the west , and that aim has been largely successful, which is why the aid that Ukraine was getting has slowed to a trickle, the 'mission' as it is , is largely over. Has it 'broken' Russia, the secondary aim ? No. In many ways its strengthened them, its opened up new markets, and pushed their military tech forward. Ukraine will be the biggest loser, all the promises of rebuilding them, using western investors, will evaporate, as the area will be considered unsafe, and I find it likely they will be presented with a large bill from some countries for the 'help' The refugees will not be going back , they have little to go back to, and that wont change for a long time, more likely that once they are allowed to leave, more will head west, and who could blame them. The bigger question is , who will THEY blame, Russia, their own government, or NATO ? Edited April 3 by Rewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 I doubt the figures from Zelensky are true. March was a record month for destroyed Russian motorised vehicles at 1546 (visually confirmed). The drone strike's 1200km into Russia two days ago, together with the refinery attacks, the Czechia initiative, the increasing support in Europe are all good signs for Ukraine . The Russian use of tanks from the 50's, the depletion of storage sites, the scavenging of artillery barrels are all evidence of a reducing capability. I see the data come in pretty much every day and the Russian losses are vast. It's clear that Russia does not have the man power or equipment or financial resources to defeat Ukraine. The question for the West is do we have the resource and staying power to push them back. What will Putin do when faced with the end? Whatever the truth of it, it's a sad loss of life and Putin must be defeated. Let's hope Trump is defeated in November and the US can regain its position as a superpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 42 minutes ago, oowee said: I doubt the figures from Zelensky are true. You dont say 43 minutes ago, oowee said: March was a record month for destroyed Russian motorised vehicles at 1546 (visually confirmed). Visually confirmed by who ? Again, youre conflating propaganda with facts. Would you believe the Russians if they said they 'visually confirmed' the killing of 10,000 Ukrainian troops in one week ? Of course you wouldnt , how would they know how many they killed ? Why would either side tell the truth ? 47 minutes ago, oowee said: I see the data come in pretty much every day and the Russian losses are vast. From WHO ? Are there any independent , unbiased observers on the battlefield ? 49 minutes ago, oowee said: It's clear that Russia does not have the man power or equipment or financial resources to defeat Ukraine. The question for the West is do we have the resource and staying power to push them back. I didnt think the west was fighting Russia, I thought this was definitely NOT a proxy war ? Can Ukraine win on its own ? Because its looking increasingly likely it will be soon, what will you say then ? 52 minutes ago, oowee said: Whatever the truth of it, it's a sad loss of life and Putin must be defeated. Let's hope Trump is defeated in November and the US can regain its position as a superpower. You better hope Trump wins in November, or this war could drag on for many more years, with Ukraine increasingly damaged, and the risk of a more global conflict intensified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I didnt think the west was fighting Russia, I thought this was definitely NOT a proxy war ? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 27 minutes ago, Rewulf said: You dont say Visually confirmed by who ? Again, youre conflating propaganda with facts. Would you believe the Russians if they said they 'visually confirmed' the killing of 10,000 Ukrainian troops in one week ? Of course you wouldnt , how would they know how many they killed ? Why would either side tell the truth ? From WHO ? Are there any independent , unbiased observers on the battlefield ? I didnt think the west was fighting Russia, I thought this was definitely NOT a proxy war ? Can Ukraine win on its own ? Because its looking increasingly likely it will be soon, what will you say then ? You better hope Trump wins in November, or this war could drag on for many more years, with Ukraine increasingly damaged, and the risk of a more global conflict intensified. Russia is attacking the West. State sanctioned killings. Election interference. Bribing leaders and politicians. Andrew Perpetuas team analyses daily video footage counting hard assets losses of both sides from social media. Each listed kill is directly linked to video evidence. Troop loses are more difficult to evaluate. The data from Ukraine is far more evidenced (with a verification process) than the Russian numbers. It's looking increasingly likely that Ukraine will not be on it's own. Fortunately it looks like loony tune trump has alienated enough women and true republicans (according to fox) to be a looser come November. Global conflict is inevitable if Ukraine were to loose. Even winning will do little for world stability. Global conflict is fuelled by Russia's aggression and bolstered by Trump's weakness. China is waiting in the wings for Taiwan. Trumps recent sell out to Jeff Yass (merger for Truth social) and his sudden about turn on Tik Tok ban (part owned by Yass) spotlight his further indebtedness to China. Shrewd move by sleepy Joe to bolster US chip manufacture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 14 minutes ago, oowee said: Russia is attacking the West. State sanctioned killings. Election interference. Bribing leaders and politicians. You have no hard evidence to support any of that. I dont doubt leaders and politicians get bribed, its par for the course, but if there were evidence, they would be dealt with, but there just isnt. 14 minutes ago, oowee said: Andrew Perpetuas team analyses daily video footage counting hard assets losses of both sides from social media. Each listed kill is directly linked to video evidence. Troop loses are more difficult to evaluate. The data from Ukraine is far more evidenced (with a verification process) than the Russian numbers. So hes the American version of Bellingcat, who in turn works for a propaganda branch of NATO ? So its not a massive stretch for this 'baseball analyst' to be working for US intelligence ? And this verification process from Ukrainian sources ? They dont publish losses data, so how come he knows ? 15 minutes ago, oowee said: Fortunately it looks like loony tune trump has alienated enough women and true republicans (according to fox) to be a looser come November. Youre listening to propaganda again, there isnt a single opinion poll that doesnt put Trump ahead by a country mile 15 minutes ago, oowee said: Global conflict is inevitable if Ukraine were to loose. Even winning will do little for world stability. Global conflict is fuelled by Russia's aggression and bolstered by Trump's weakness. China is waiting in the wings for Taiwan. Trumps recent sell out to Jeff Yass (merger for Truth social) and his sudden about turn on Tik Tok ban (part owned by Yass) spotlight his further indebtedness to China. So why dont we make them win ? Why have essential arms shipments all but stopped ? Why has Ukraine stooped to desperate measures, and begging for weapons ? 15 minutes ago, oowee said: Shrewd move by sleepy Joe to bolster US chip manufacture. The last shrewd move Biden did was making sure his nurse put his incontinence pants on the right way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Quote Global conflict is fuelled by Russia's aggression and bolstered by Trump's weakness. Hang on, Trump isn't in power. All this has happened under Joe Biden's presidency. Whatever you say about Trump, do you honestly prefer the senile Biden? Honestly????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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