JKD Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I find this a really strange comment. Anyway, other potential considerations… Is the original news story, news worthy? - Definitely in my opinion. Would it have been reported in MSM if the perps were white, irrespective of their religious belief? - I believe so. Would Tousi TV have “reported” it if the perps were white, irrespective of their religious beliefs? - I doubt it very much. Would the kerfuffle with the lawyer, family, friends, supporters have occurred if the perps were white? - almost certainly not. The point Mungler made earlier is for me the key topic. Regardless of race, religion, sexuality, dietary preferences or whatever, this kind of culture of amplified outrage, protest etc. needs to be cancelled. Ultimately a court will most likely decide if the kung foo coppers behaviour was criminal/justifiable. On a slightly lighter note, I have to confess when I saw the picture of the female policewoman, with symmetric black eyes, I did wonder if she was taken away in a panda car, does that make me a bad person? At last,,,, some reasoned discussion, albeit with a touch of humour 👍🐼😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I find this a really strange comment. What is strange about it? I give him the benefit of doubt , that at that precise moment in time, he thought his actions were required. Given that, I support him ie. I'm on his side. I take it the rest was not aimed at me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 4 minutes ago, JKD said: At last,,,, some reasoned discussion, albeit with a touch of humour 👍🐼😆 So you agree it's ok to beat up police women and joke about ? do you beat women up and joke about it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 4 minutes ago, scobydog said: So you agree it's ok to beat up police women and joke about ? do you beat women up and joke about it ? Oh dear,,,, 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 4 minutes ago, JKD said: Oh dear,,,, 🤦♂️ ????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, scobydog said: I didn't write the small bit of humour ??????????!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, JKD said: I didn't write the small bit of humour ??????????!!!! Never said you did but you more than obviously agreed with it ?????????!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 Just now, scobydog said: Never said you did but you more than obviously agreed with it ?????????!!!!!!!!!! 🥱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 12 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: What is strange about it? I give him the benefit of doubt , that at that precise moment in time, he thought his actions were required. Given that, I support him ie. I'm on his side. I take it the rest was not aimed at me? Just strange that you position like that based purely on the videos. Giving further benefit of doubt that he “thought” before he lashed out. If he did admit to “thinking” before acting then that nails it, against him, in my opinion. This notion of “sides” on a topic like this astounds me. I’m against the perps, they are criminals. I’m on the side of law and order. I’m on the side of the police neutralising the perps, as they did with the tasers. I’m against anyone who’s been laid out getting an additional kicking (and stamping). The rest of my previous post was not aimed at anyone in particular. 20 minutes ago, scobydog said: So you agree it's ok to beat up police women and joke about ? do you beat women up and joke about it ? @JKD welcome to the club, this is what you / we are up against… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Just strange that you position like that based purely on the videos. Giving further benefit of doubt that he “thought” before he lashed out. If he did admit to “thinking” before acting then that nails it, against him, in my opinion. This notion of “sides” on a topic like this astounds me. I’m against the perps, they are criminals. I’m on the side of law and order. I’m on the side of the police neutralising the perps, as they did with the tasers. I’m against anyone who’s been laid out getting an additional kicking (and stamping). The rest of my previous post was not aimed at anyone in particular. Some of us are on the same page 😉 4 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Just strange that you position like that based purely on the videos. Giving further benefit of doubt that he “thought” before he lashed out. If he did admit to “thinking” before acting then that nails it, against him, in my opinion. This notion of “sides” on a topic like this astounds me. I’m against the perps, they are criminals. I’m on the side of law and order. I’m on the side of the police neutralising the perps, as they did with the tasers. I’m against anyone who’s been laid out getting an additional kicking (and stamping). The rest of my previous post was not aimed at anyone in particular. @JKD welcome to the club, this is what you / we are up against… 👍🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 (edited) I suggest its a normal, mainly male reaction to dish out some red mist payback when he's been/being attacked by two or three 'too important' scumbags; who seemingly think they don't have to let police search their mums bags when arriving into our country. I read somewhere the mum grabbed and hid something from a bag during the affray. Edited July 28 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Just strange that you position like that based purely on the videos. Giving further benefit of doubt that he “thought” before he lashed out. Must be strange then, as you say it is 🤷♂️ Strange how that works..... Should I ask your permission before I give my benefit of doubt out again Edited July 28 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 3 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Must be strange then, as you say it is 🤷♂️ Strange how that works..... Should I ask your permission before I give my benefit of doubt out again Even stranger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 29 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Even stranger! Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 5 hours ago, Mice! said: Going back to the good old days when Sunday drinking was 12-3 then 7-10pm I remember shielding a WPC when the crowd on the street surged and she was facing the wrong way, I wouldn't have done it with a bloke, we just automatically look out for Women, or at least we should 🤷♂️ Not a chance given where people were. We all did, my first priority was her protection. THAT left you quite vulnerable to attack.........I know ! My biggest nightmare would be to be trapped on the 2nd. floor of a blazing building and the first up the ladder would be 5' nothin Female firefighter ! 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 2 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Exactly. “I find” is not passing judgement, it’s inviting an explanation. Perhaps when you thought about what you’d stated you realised you were heading down a dead end? Turning it back on me👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357shooter Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 if people have no respect for our laws maybe they should not be here.if i had taken a beating like that and witnessed the scum attacking those female officers i would have taken things further.all this beacause minorities have more rights.things are very broken when such minorities can try to kill police officers and get away with it due to playing the race card.just for example what would happen in lets say a muslim country if a white person committed the same crimes ?.double standards much.so all of this because their bags could not be searched,just think that this behaviour was justifed to these people for this simple action that no one else would have a problem with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 41 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: “I find” is not passing judgement, it’s inviting an explanation. Perhaps when you thought about what you’d stated you realised you were heading down a dead end? Turning it back on me👍 If you say so 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 Posts removed, this is your final warning about the tone of some language being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 You can absolutely rest assured that if this had happened to a group of English folk arriving in any other country with the exact same scenario then the best they could hope for was a proper good kicking, I'm picturing batons and dogs, as a good out come. Now think of it differently, your out with your mates and this happens, your set upon, hit from behind in an unprovoked attack, how would you and your mates have reacted, I know what my mates would have done, and it wouldn't be stand watching. Then think of it like this, a soldier in uniform was attacked and stabbed this week, I've seen no reports of demos, but in the same week police officers in uniform are attacked, viciously not handbags like we often see on the telly, those coppers might well have thought this is another case of attacking the authorities, so they put the attackers down hard 🤷♂️ Damned if the do, damned if they don't. 2 hours ago, Westley said: My biggest nightmare would be to be trapped on the 2nd. floor of a blazing building and the first up the ladder would be 5' nothin Female firefighter ! 😂😂 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 Everyone is going on about the kick the police officer dished out as if it was a full on kick, he doesn’t even draw his leg right back. Looks like a very restrained kick to me . One thing is for sure to me is the punches that were thrown would have had more force in them . Saw a lot worse kicks when I was younger and also had a couple myself with more force than that one . Think the ***** got off lightly. Also it’s quite possible he acted that way thinking they could be potential terrorists. With what had happened a few days before. Think the copper should get a pat on the back for not doing more . I would have bloody scum bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 If you have a shotgun certificate, you would have kissed it goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, Gordon R said: If you have a shotgun certificate, you would have kissed it goodbye. Sorry but if I was in his position sgc would definitely be the last thing on my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 Perhaps you shouldn't have an SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 This is a new generation of British born Asian youngsters. You only have to see their behaviour when they are driving their German cars. They do not give a toss for anybody, especially law and order. It is as if they have witnessed other ethnic groups, getting their own way by 'demonstrating' (or rioting) and thinking that's the way to do it, we shall follow suit. I can see things becoming a lot worse, before there is any improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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