oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, oowee said: Jersey. Its small but well put together. You would have to rent for ten yearsΒ An amazing number of Migrant workers far more than around here. They have a key worker scheme to cover hospitals, hospitality and trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, oowee said: An amazing number of Migrant workers far more than around here. They have a key worker scheme to cover hospitals, hospitality and trades. I bet they do, as long as theyre FrenchΒ No dinghies though, strange.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Okay oowee - how come the dinghies don't land there? Nearer and a warm welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Okay oowee - how come the dinghies don't land there? Nearer and a warm welcome. Current is too fast, it has the second highest tide range in the world. They would most likely end up on the rocks.Β Also I guess harder to hide if they did make it. We need ID cards. Edited September 10 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Perhaps you can recall the last time the Civil Service tried to get ID cards to work. It was a fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 7 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Perhaps you can recall the last time the Civil Service tried to get ID cards to work. It was a fiasco. It never happened. I think there was a Tory plan in 2011? That may have been a fiasco. 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: I bet they do, as long as theyre FrenchΒ No dinghies though, strange.... Maybe but all the ones I met where from Portugal and Africa (maybe French Guyana but I doubt it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 13 minutes ago, oowee said: Current is too fast, it has the second highest tide range in the world. They would most likely end up on the rocks.Β Also I guess harder to hide if they did make it. We need ID cards. And how would that stop the supposedly stateless ones in the rubber boats? Just more personal restrictions for the homies? Not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Just now, Gordon R said: Perhaps you can recall the last time the Civil Service tried to get ID cards to work. It was a fiasco. It wasn't a fiasco it was blocked and sabotaged. But we have a perfectly good ID card already . The driving licence could be easily upgraded.Β OK so what about people who don't drive? Make theirs a provisional or a blank driving licence.But the operation is already up and running so why not use it? In America your driving licence is effectively an ID card and it works there. You can actually get arrested for not having your licence on you in AmericaΒ even if you are not driving. On the subject of producing ID we flew two weeks ago from London Heathrow to Glasgow . We still had to scan our passports to check in even though it's an internal flight. We were warned we would have to so had them with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 12 minutes ago, old man said: And how would that stop the supposedly stateless ones in the rubber boats? Just more personal restrictions for the homies? Not for me. Access to health, services, id checks, housing, its endless. No one wants one but we all have a part to play or are we just happy to leave it to everyone else?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Quote It wasn't a fiasco it was blocked and sabotaged Rewulf - I beg to differ. I knew a few people who were actually working on it. I recall that it lacked proper leadership, competence and original thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 50 minutes ago, oowee said: Current is too fast, it has the second highest tide range in the world. They would most likely end up on the rocks.Β Far better to risk the Channel, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, because guess what ? You only have to go a couple of miles for the French to escort you to the mid point, then the Brit border force chauffer you in with hot tea and biscuits, and a quick process later, 4 star luxury. Channel Islands, well if the French dont pick you up first, the islands have their own border force, and they bothΒ drop you straight back off in France, hence... They dont even try. Now why cant we, or the French do that on the main dinghie highway ? 46 minutes ago, oowee said: Maybe but all the ones I met where from Portugal and Africa (maybe French Guyana but I doubt it). How many did you meet, bet there were THOUSANDS of em , running aroundΒ 10 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Rewulf - I beg to differ. Not my post Gordon. Vinces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Channel Islands, well if the French dont pick you up first, the islands have their own border force, and they bothΒ drop you straight back off in France, hence... They dont even try. I thought the only Border Force to do that was the UK?Β Admittedly only once but its once more than previously. I cant see anything on the Channel Islands doing the same?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 9 minutes ago, oowee said: I thought the only Border Force to do that was the UK?Β Admittedly only once but its once more than previously. I cant see anything on the Channel Islands doing the same?Β Nope , they have their own border force, that work very closely with the French, dinghie people get took straight back to French mainland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Rewulf - apologies. Post was for Vince. π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, oowee said: Access to health, services, id checks, housing, its endless. No one wants one but we all have a part to play or are we just happy to leave it to everyone else?Β Forgive me but I was of the opinion that the politicos should follow the will of the people? I wonder if they are aware of the public ground swell of opinion that they are not doing things for the benefit of the people? Of course they are aware, just not performing for the electorate? Edited September 10 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 17 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Rewulf - apologies. Post was for Vince. π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, old man said: Forgive me but I was of the opinion that the politicos should follow the will of the people? I wonder if they are aware of the public ground swell of opinion that they are not doing things for the benefit of the people? Of course they are aware, just not performing for the electorate? No idea what you are on about.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) @RewulfΒ has provided a link to a breakdown of the immigration numbers by country of origin and type.Β https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingdecember2023#:~:text=This is similar to levels,36%2C000) (Table 1). It looks to clearly confirm that as a direct result of Brexit the number of immigrants from India, Nigeria and Pakistan has dramatically increased. These have come on work visa's at our invitation. We know that families from these countries are likely to be significantly larger than those from the EU. The difference in income between the UK and the third world origins is such that few would be likely to return.Β If you voted for Brexit your choice directly led to an increase in immigration to the UK.Β Β The top five non-EU nationalities for long-term immigration flows into the UK in the YE December 2023 were Indian (250,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (90,000), Pakistani (83,000) and Zimbabwean (36,000) (Table 1). Since 2019, the number of Indian, Nigerian and Pakistani nationals arriving in the UK has seen the largest increase. There were approximately 62,000 more Pakistani nationals, 127,000 more Nigerian nationals and 178,000 more Indian nationals immigrating to the UK in 2023 compared with 2019. According to Home Office figures for the YE December 2023 onΒ Why do people come to the UK? To work, those from India, Nigeria and Pakistan made up the majority of those granted visas to work in the UK. π Edited September 10 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 27 minutes ago, oowee said: No idea what you are on about.Β Mm, apologies. At that point I had obviously gone off piste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Just now, old man said: Mm, apologies. At that point I had obviously gone off piste. No worries. Its just some fun. Its not so easy to follow when there are so many posts.Β π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 21 hours ago, Rewulf said: Nope , they have their own border force, that work very closely with the French, dinghie people get took straight back to French mainland. I wasn't aware of that. If what you say is correct, it goes to show A. it can be done B. It is totally effective at stopping the boats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 11 Report Share Posted September 11 26 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I wasn't aware of that. If what you say is correct, it goes to show A. it can be done B. It is totally effective at stopping the boats I cannot find any evidence of this. It sounds like a model for all.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 (edited) Telegraph now. Following other reports recently released, the OBR has calculated that low skilled migrants cost more than they bring in economic activity: negative Β£150k odd a piece by the time they hit retirement. Factor in old age, state pension and NHS treatment andβ¦. The OBR estimated the cost to the public purse rose to almost Β£500,000 if they lived to 80, and more than Β£1m if they lived to 100. By contrast, the average British-born worker boosts the public finances by Β£280,000 by the time they reach 66, even adjusting for education and health spending before they start work. Β It seemed pretty obvious to me. Mass immigration, kicked off under Blair, is nothing but a Ponzi scheme.Β Β Edited September 12 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 And this is interesting; Β Β Β NB : the figures and graphΒ assumes all migrants are in their 20s, have no dependents and have no kids. Of course the reality is that these three assumptions are wrong so the impact will be far far worse than calculated.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 On 06/09/2024 at 12:16, Stuarta said: oowee. if you are waiting for this lot to do better you really are a plonker I think Stuarta did rather well as Starmers middle name is Rodney. From AuntieΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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