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30 minutes ago, Cranfield said:

IMO Usyk won the fight, Fury seemed to lose his way at times during the middle and later rounds.
The overall quality of the boxing was abysmal . 

I'm not sure the quality was abysmal, it's the style fought, I predicted that Fury would fight Klitchko style, which can be a bit boring to watch, but is very effictive, it doesn't have the flashy infighting and is designed to accumulate points and avoid knock downs, but is certainly no less skillful to pull off. 

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34 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

😂😂😂 Thanks for that information, I don't think you can read, I boxed and competed from 12 until I was 28 and on and off after that, Im glad your telling me how it works or I'd have been stuck. 

Boxing eggs doesn't qualify mate. Lol

 

29 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Why was Fury so heavy?

He thought the added weight would enable him to bully Usyk and put his weight on him, it basically failed, Usyk wasn't really having it.

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35 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Why was Fury so heavy?

Basically he went from trying to outbox usyk and be elusive in the first fight, which was something I couldn't understand, Usyk has one of the best boxing IQs in the business and Fury as the bigger man burnt alot of energy by doing that rather than relying on his size. 

In the second fight he planned to take the fight to him, own the centre of the ring, cut his ring space off and move forwards, which I thought he should have done from the start. Fury can hit him at range, when Usyk stepped in to fury's mid range that's the danger zone for fury as he can't fully extend his arms without throwing hooks and uppercuts which will always be slower than usyks straight punches, to counter that, as soon as Usyk launches an attack and steps in, Fury needs to close the distance fully and lean on him, at very close range usyk cant get leverage to throw effective punches, but Fury can exhaust him leaning his weight on him. 

In short Fury put weight on as fighting on the front foot in the centre of the ring takes much less energy, than boxing around the edges trying to find angles to come in, with extra weight, he can exhaust Usyk leaning on him. 

19 minutes ago, Goly said:

 

 

He thought the added weight would enable him to bully Usyk and put his weight on him, it basically failed, Usyk wasn't really having it.

Stick to lesson on the benefits of migration 👍

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2 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

Basically he went from trying to outbox usyk and be elusive in the first fight, which was something I couldn't understand, Usyk has one of the best boxing IQs in the business and Fury as the bigger man burnt alot of energy by doing that rather than relying on his size. 

In the second fight he planned to take the fight to him, own the centre of the ring, cut his ring space off and move forwards, which I thought he should have done from the start. Fury can hit him at range, when Usyk stepped in to fury's mid range that's the danger zone for fury as he can't fully extend his arms without throwing hooks and uppercuts which will always be slower than usyks straight punches, to counter that, as soon as Usyk launches an attack and steps in, Fury needs to close the distance fully and lean on him, at very close range usyk cant get leverage to throw effective punches, but Fury can exhaust him leaning his weight on him. 

In short Fury put weight on as fighting on the front foot in the centre of the ring takes much less energy, than boxing around the edges trying to find angles to come in, with extra weight, he can exhaust Usyk leaning on him. 

Stick to lesson on the benefits of migration 👍

What level did you box at mate, a fairly lengthy boxing career going by the years at it.

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8 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

Open class. I could have turned pro but was aware I was never going to be good enough to fight at the top level and had other plans for my career. 

A long career then, did you win any titles?

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4 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I don't want to share anything that could identify me on an open forum, but nothing major anyway. 

I had a few amateur bouts in my teens and have done in a few unlicensed bouts in my 30's. I was never dedicated enough to stick to it.

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9 hours ago, stumfelter said:

Too many pies!

That's how it looked, what a bulge over the top of his shorts/skirt whatever that thing was he was wearing.

 

He had the height advantage and the weight advantage but looked out gunned, outfought and fairly beaten.

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Fury should probably retire, but in a documentary I saw about him, he seemed lost if he wasn't training, or preparing for a fight.
It was almost a "mental health" issue.
It doesn't seem as though he can just sit back and enjoy the fortune he has earned.
I don't know if he could coach, or something similar, but he seems to have no interest outside of boxing.

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14 minutes ago, Cranfield said:

Fury should probably retire, but in a documentary I saw about him, he seemed lost if he wasn't training, or preparing for a fight.
It was almost a "mental health" issue.
It doesn't seem as though he can just sit back and enjoy the fortune he has earned.
I don't know if he could coach, or something similar, but he seems to have no interest outside of boxing.

He could work with the younger. Fury family. As long as he does. Not turn into his dad 😀😀

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Not sure any of the younger Furys has any talent. Tommy Fury is a joke, who couldn't beat my granny and she has been dead for many years.

Whatever you think of Tyson Fury, I do worry about his future. Got money, wife and kids, but without the discipline of boxing, will he go off the rails? I hope not.

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I actually have sympathy for Fury, he was supposed to be the "man" of his generation, it hasn't turned out that way. These losses will kill him inside, pride can be everything to a man. He has had a good career given his lifestyle choices and came back from the brink of self destruction, that is way more important than any boxing match, I hope he realises this.

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When all's said and done there isn't a boxer alive who could find the cheat code to beat Usyk he's just an enigma I would love to see him fight moses itauma that would be very interesting itauma wouldn't get involved in chess match it would be all or nothing with him future world champion right there

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