Fire arms cert

[paulw6969]

Finally got the phone call today from feo for renewal only took six months overdue 

[Fil]

TVP were 6 months overdue with my shotgun certificate a few years ago. What I didn't notice at the time was they dated the new certificate from the day it ran out rather than the day they printed it effectivley robbing me 6 months worth of "ticket time." When I realised it I was a bit annoyed but never said anything. But I certainly will in the future if they raise the cost of a certificate to silly amount. I will make sure they don't get away with any mistakes if I'm paying them hundreds for the service. 

[mossy835]

mine runs out in 3 years. if its that much i wont be paying that.

[London Best]

5 hours ago, mossy835 said:

mine runs out in 3 years. if its that much i wont be paying that.

You must consider your shooting to be just a hobby then, not a way of life as it is for some of us.

[Rim Fire]

10 hours ago, London Best said:

You must consider your shooting to be just a hobby then, not a way of life as it is for some of us.

I would pay £500 for 5 years shooting  around £2 a week thats nothing 

[Good shot?]

There is no justification to be forced to pay £500 + whatever the Doctors will eventually want and I find it difficult to understand anyone saying they would willingly pay £500 for a renewal on a shooting forum post bearing in mind one of the reasons for any charge is the concern for public safety.

There are many. devices being used to reduce the number of firearms or any other commodity in public ownership, cost to reduce is always a good one to use against " the working (or retired) man". 

As an aside, I doubt we will be able to pay it at £2 a week.😏

Edited December 21 by Good shot?

[scarecrow243]

why on earth would you pay more for your certificates when the price was already put up a few years ago supposed to cover the cost of wages and paper work and then what did they do have less staff closed firearm offices  so it takes longer to get certificates  and up here they are now only available on the phone between 9am and 12 noon

[Rim Fire]

On 21/12/2024 at 10:36, scarecrow243 said:

why on earth would you pay more for your certificates when the price was already put up a few years ago supposed to cover the cost of wages and paper work and then what did they do have less staff closed firearm offices  so it takes longer to get certificates  and up here they are now only available on the phone between 9am and 12 noon

Because i live for my shooting its my job its my hobby its my life  and the increase in numbers since 2015 when the last increase was has risen 

we all moan they not doing there job quick enough well more money more staff quicker results 

On 21/12/2024 at 09:01, Good shot? said:

There is no justification to be forced to pay £500 + whatever the Doctors will eventually want and I find it difficult to understand anyone saying they would willingly pay £500 for a renewal on a shooting forum post bearing in mind one of the reasons for any charge is the concern for public safety.

How is paying more a concern to public safety 

[scarecrow243]

1 hour ago, Rim Fire said:

Because i live for my shooting its my job its my hobby its my life  and the increase in numbers since 2015 when the last increase was has risen 

we all moan they not doing there job quick enough well more money more staff quicker results 

How is paying more a concern to public safety 

so your saying people who could not afford to pay a high price for certificates should stop shooting well so much for fellow shooters sticking together

[Good shot?]

The main reason for certification is the need to protect the public from guns being in the wrong hands and that should contribute to the bulk of the cost to provide that service, not the licence holder or applicant.

Also how would such a charge help to bring new people into the sport.

I can, in your case  (Rim fire) understand your acceptance of such an increase but it is far from what is actually going on with the authorities, or anyone else asking for such a charge.

Edited December 23 by Good shot?

[London Best]

1 hour ago, scarecrow243 said:

so your saying people who could not afford to pay a high price for certificates should stop shooting well so much for fellow shooters sticking together

Even a higher priced certificate would still be a tiny proportion of the cost of shooting. 
Shooting is an expensive sport.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Just now, London Best said:

Even a higher priced certificate would still be a tiny proportion of the cost of shooting. 
Shooting is an expensive sport.

But paying more for the same poor service is in nobody's interest, it NEEDS reforming and bringing back to some semblance of an efficient service.

[scarecrow243]

years ago before the price hike on certificates we were able to walk into the firearms office to hand in paper work or ask questions  now the office is closed and they only accept phone calls between 9am and 12 noon so the price hike made things worse not better

[London Best]

16 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

But paying more for the same poor service is in nobody's interest, it NEEDS reforming and bringing back to some semblance of an efficient service.

I could not agree more.

[clangerman]

1 hour ago, scarecrow243 said:

so your saying people who could not afford to pay a high price for certificates should stop shooting well so much for fellow shooters sticking together

price of cartridges will be our death I’m done with being robbed! 

[Rim Fire]

1 hour ago, scarecrow243 said:

so your saying people who could not afford to pay a high price for certificates should stop shooting well so much for fellow shooters sticking together

you said that i never did   it is something i love doing its in my blood i been shooting since i was 11yrs of age obviously with an air rifle to start then shotguns then rifles i am in the prossee of buying brobably my last rifle as i am 70 yrs of age cost dosent come into it when it comes to my shooting i have paid upto  4k for thermal plus i have 4 other NV systems  paying £400 for 5 yrs is nothing as i said its about £2 a week 

28 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

But paying more for the same poor service is in nobody's interest, it NEEDS reforming and bringing back to some semblance of an efficient service.

That was in my first answer hopefully it will imrove the system 

Edited December 23 by Rim Fire

[scarecrow243]

you are saying paying more money for our certificates will improve the service it won't as i said they put the price up already to cover wages and admin the service has gotten worse not better  you are living in dream land.     many many years ago you got a shotgun licence from the post office

[London Best]

56 minutes ago, clangerman said:

price of cartridges will be our death I’m done with being robbed! 

Shooters were moaning about the cost of cartridges when I started shooting. Nothing has changed, except cartridges are cheaper now.
The first ones I remember were 10 shillings and six pence per 25 for Grand Prix. That is 51 1/2p. That was less than 20 boxes for Dad’s £10 weekly gross wage, before tax.

[clangerman]

44 minutes ago, London Best said:

Shooters were moaning about the cost of cartridges when I started shooting. Nothing has changed, except cartridges are cheaper now.
The first ones I remember were 10 shillings and six pence per 25 for Grand Prix. That is 51 1/2p. That was less than 20 boxes for Dad’s £10 weekly gross wage, before tax.

have you seen the price of 20b carts retailers might as well wear masks and pull a gun on us! 

[Miserableolgit]

2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

But paying more for the same poor service is in nobody's interest, it NEEDS reforming and bringing back to some semblance of an efficient service.

Absolutely.

 

[murray smith]

10 year ticket and all this stuff goes away, maybe Govt doesnt want this process to work

[TIGHTCHOKE]

https://basc.org.uk/basc-warns-against-fee-increase-without-licensing-reform/

[London Best]

1 hour ago, clangerman said:

have you seen the price of 20b carts retailers might as well wear masks and pull a gun on us! 

Not bought any 20 bore for a few years now as rarely use it. 
How many boxes can you buy for the U.K. average weekly wage?  I buy relatively expensive Supreme Game 12 bore for £408/1000. I believe he average wage is now around £600/week? That means about 60 boxes for a week’s gross wage. One third the price of the early 1960’s when my Dad’s wage was £10.

Edited December 23 by London Best

[Rim Fire]

2 hours ago, scarecrow243 said:

you are saying paying more money for our certificates will improve the service it won't as i said they put the price up already to cover wages and admin the service has gotten worse not better  you are living in dream land.     many many years ago you got a shotgun licence from the post office

How do you know we won't get a better  service mabe we won't  but that doesn't  alter the fact i would still pay £400 for my shooting as for getting  my licence from the post office   used to get  my milk frome  the milkman now it's Asda  🤣

[London Best]

23 hours ago, clangerman said:

have you seen the price of 20b carts retailers might as well wear masks and pull a gun on us! 

As I said earlier, I have not bought 20 bore cartridges for a year or two so I just checked the prices. The Supreme Game 25 gram I use are actually over £20 cheaper than the 28 gram 12 bore I buy.