Relocation to USA

[udderlyoffroad]

28 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said:

 If you are not lazy and of reasonable intelligence you will be successful.

Dammit I’d be hosed on both counts 😂

The biggest difference I observe with visiting even the bluer states is that success is something to be aspired to not begrudged. This includes the government who are actually inclined to let you keep your money & generate wealth. Even the worst excesses of the republic of California is still mild compared to the active en****ification we tolerate in Europe.

On 20/12/2024 at 17:21, wymberley said:

When asked if they'd ever thought about returning to the UK, the general consensus of opinion was, ' not likely, just take one look at the equipment that we've got in our kitchens and you'd begin to understand why not.

Whilst I get the point, the example of kitchen equipment seems a strange one; I’ve yet to see something in the US that isn’t available in the UK. Perhaps the fact that all but the larger houses in the UK lack a separate ‘laundry’ says more.

[Mungler]

Cousin emigrated a few years ago (following a yank wife) and with 2 kids in tow. Colorado.

He’s bright and hard working and it’s worked well for him. Zero chance of him coming back. 

His comments - if you’ve got half a brain and a work ethic, it’s going to work out fine. Said the Yanks as a whole aren’t as bright or quick as average Brits. Said they don’t have our ingrained jealousy of success / successful people and class counts for nothing. 

He keeps trying to convince me and the wife out, but work and kids are anchored here. 

My brother is currently $20k into US immigration attorney fees - sees Europe in irreversible decline and wants a better future for his kids. Looking at Idaho I think - red on red state, lowest crime rate, big space and low uncontrolled mass immigration. Indeed, it’s surprising how hard it is to get a green card when going through the proper channels 😆

[Houseplant]

I worked in the USA for a year. Long Island, New York. Great place and great people despite the reputation that New Yorkers have. Fishing was amazing. As a young man, it was an eye-opener in the sense of realising that there was a better quality of life out there (I'm from the UK originally).   

[Fargo]

Depending on your age and financial wealth I’d go to Usa, Nz, Poland, Hungary, Norway or Argentina.

[BobbyH]

9 hours ago, Fargo said:

Depending on your age and financial wealth I’d go to Usa, Nz, Poland, Hungary, Norway or Argentina.

So pretty much anywhere than the UK 😂😂

[JKD]

9 hours ago, Fargo said:

Depending on your age and financial wealth I’d go to Usa, Nz, Poland, Hungary, Norway or Argentina.

 

23 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

So pretty much anywhere than the UK 😂😂

Yup,,,, might as well move to London or any other big city 🤔 🤭🤣

[old man]

19 hours ago, Houseplant said:

I worked in the USA for a year. Long Island, New York. Great place and great people despite the reputation that New Yorkers have. Fishing was amazing. As a young man, it was an eye-opener in the sense of realising that there was a better quality of life out there (I'm from the UK originally).   

You could add "who was enlightened enough to jump ship early enough?" 😅

[Cranfield]

It does depend if you want to work or retire.
There are different conditions of entry to most countries, depending on your choice, you would be wise to investigate these asap.
You can't just walk in.
A big advantage of the USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, is they basically speak English, so no " learn the language" problems.
Friends who have moved into Europe over the years have said the biggest problem is learning the language.
Good luck.

 

[Houseplant]

Don't discount Australia if you can get in. Amazing country in terms of geography/climate, it's much like America in that it's so huge, so you can go skiing in the south of the country or enjoy the tropics of the far north with everything in between. Lots of beautiful, untouched coastline in Western Australia. Although Perth is a big city, the rest of the state is sparsely populated and doesn't have the visitor numbers of the east coast. There's also a good range of options for rural and city living. 

[Eyefor]

On 22/12/2024 at 16:04, NoBodyImportant said:

I disagree.  American is the place of opportunity.  I have never tried hard at life.  If you are not lazy and of reasonable intelligence you will be successful.  I’m  middle class and it’s a good life.  

I respect your opinion and that you disagree. Be a boring old place if we were all the same?

Happy holidays !

[wymberley]

 

 

On 22/12/2024 at 16:50, udderlyoffroad said:

Dammit I’d be hosed on both counts 😂

The biggest difference I observe with visiting even the bluer states is that success is something to be aspired to not begrudged. This includes the government who are actually inclined to let you keep your money & generate wealth. Even the worst excesses of the republic of California is still mild compared to the active en****ification we tolerate in Europe.

“Whilst I get the point, the example of kitchen equipment seems a strange one; I’ve yet to see something in the US that isn’t available in the UK. Perhaps the fact that all but the larger houses in the UK lack a separate ‘laundry’ says more.”

Re the quoted post above, I agree that the UK is catching up but the working class folk here still lag behind with regard to many “white goods “ and other kitchen electrical goods. However, I was talking of a time when the RAF (can’t answer for the other Services) did not deem it necessary for fridges to be provided in the UK furnished married quarters.

[BobbyH]

1 hour ago, wymberley said:

 

 

Re the quoted post above, I agree that the UK is catching up but the working class folk here still lag behind with regard to many “white goods “ and other kitchen electrical goods. However, I was talking of a time when the RAF (can’t answer for the other Services) did not deem it necessary for fridges to be provided in the UK furnished married quarters.

Still the same (Still serving RAF), my last property was a quarter and we got a cooker, that was it. No white goods given!

[wymberley]

18 hours ago, BobbyH said:

Still the same (Still serving RAF), my last property was a quarter and we got a cooker, that was it. No white goods given!

That is an awful indictment of the attitude of our governments of both political persuasions for the treatment of our armed forces who deserve better. Rent is paid and woe behold anyone who is a teaspoon short of the inventory quantity or has missed a stain on a cooker when it comes time to “march out”. It’s over 40 years since I left married quarters behind and to find out little or nothing has changed is or should be unbelievable.

Edited December 26, 2024 by wymberley

[BobbyH]

2 hours ago, wymberley said:

That is an awful indictment of the attitude of our governments of both political persuasions for the treatment of our armed forces who deserve better. Rent is paid and woe behold anyone who is a teaspoon short of the inventory quantity or has missed a stain on a cooker when it comes time to “march out”. It’s over 40 years since I left married quarters behind and to find out little or nothing has changed is or should be unbelievable.

When I marched in I noted everything wrong with it.

when I marched out I was charged for stuff that happened before I moved in, After I appealed I was charged £89 for a full clean of a spotless cooker

Edited December 26, 2024 by BobbyH

[old man]

17 hours ago, BobbyH said:

When I marched in I noted everything wrong with it.

when I marched out I was charged for stuff that happened before I moved in, After I appealed I was charged £89 for a full clean of a spotless cooker

Sodexo?

[BobbyH]

14 minutes ago, old man said:

Sodexo?

I’m the housing company is now Pinnacle. Sodexo deals with the food and cleaning

[wymberley]

An au pair in exchange for a fridge sounds fair.

19 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

I’m the housing company is now Pinnacle. Sodexo deals with the food and cleaning(

Edited December 27, 2024 by wymberley

[old man]

6 hours ago, BobbyH said:

I’m the housing company is now Pinnacle. Sodexo deals with the food and cleaning

👍🏻 cheers.

[simcgunner]

not to get side tracked too much but It was the same in the US Navy. when I was a Young person and used the military housing for my Young family the house we were assigned was always dirty When moving in and never clean enough when moving out. It happened that the inspectors had friends that charged for a cleaning service that would get you passed. Now a days Its supposed to be better and your given an allowance to rent a local residence that is scaled to the costs in the region your located in.

If you have a skilled profession you can do well very well in the USA. Plummber, electrician,  not carpenter home builder /roofer they are all mexicans or medical professional engineer if not It can be a cruel and difficult life. Education or training as well as work ethic is the key..The wealth gap is getting wider. the chance of being involved or your family in a gun incident is remote unless you live in a poor neighborhood in a blue city with European type gun laws.

[dogone]

   I meet many Brit’s in Canada. All except one say they would never return. As years pass friends and family in the old country change and going home is never the same either. In time there is nothing left to go back to. 
   If war brides from 1945 can stick it out then , you can today. 

[Houseplant]

1 hour ago, dogone said:

  As years pass friends and family in the old country change and going home is never the same either. In time there is nothing left to go back to. 

I think that's very true. My dad also left the UK to another country 24 years ago and he says the same thing. You end up neither here nor there. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it affects everyone differently.