BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Moving on from the HSE thread, I’m going to show if any, what steel does to a barrel. Im going to dedicate my Lanber 12Bore to the cause. Every time I’m going to use it, (It’s my main skeet gun) I’ll use steel cartridges and post up pictures after 25,50,250,500,750 and 1000 cartridges used. What do we all want to see? Just pictures of the barrels?? Cartridges used will be either Gambore Super steel 21,24 and 28 gram and Gamebore supersteel 24 gram, both in plastic wads obviously and sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, BobbyH said: Moving on from the HSE thread, I’m going to show if any, what steel does to a barrel. Im going to dedicate my Lanber 12Bore to the cause. Every time I’m going to use it, (It’s my main skeet gun) I’ll use steel cartridges and post up pictures after 25,50,250,500,750 and 1000 cartridges used. What do we all want to see? Just pictures of the barrels?? Cartridges used will be either Gambore Super steel 21,24 and 28 gram and Gamebore supersteel 24 gram, both in plastic wads obviously and sadly. Well before you start lets have some high quality pictures of your Lamber barrels before you fire any steel through them and please state if you have had it from new . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippermaj Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 A noble donation!! not too sure what you want to prove? The local clay ground has been steel shot only for decades as it shoots out over the sea. There are members there who have shot literally thousands and thousands of clay rounds through every popular clay gun going. having said all of that I will still be keen to see your results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, holloway said: Well before you start lets have some high quality pictures of your Lamber barrels before you fire any steel through them and please state if you have had it from new . Hi! I haven’t had it from new no, I’m not sure how old it is, but I think it’s about 1970’s-1980’s. Ill upload some photos in the daylight tomorrow for sure! Its choked in Skeet and Skeet, and IS NOT Flir-De-Lys, but Is BNP. 1 minute ago, flippermaj said: A noble donation!! not too sure what you want to prove? The local clay ground has been steel shot only for decades as it shoots out over the sea. There are members there who have shot literally thousands and thousands of clay rounds through every popular clay gun going. having said all of that I will still be keen to see your results! I know Steel shot is fine, But with so many saying it will do this and it will do that. Im going to just do it and show the effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippermaj Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Good on ya!, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Well done for this experiment.Lanbers are pretty bomb proof so it will be interesting for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 minute ago, wisdom said: Well done for this experiment.Lanbers are pretty bomb proof so it will be interesting for sure. Yeah, I’m interested to see, steel shot in a non steel shot proofed gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 35 minutes ago, BobbyH said: Yeah, I’m interested to see, steel shot in a non steel shot proofed gun I’ve used HP steel shot in nitro proofed guns for quite a few years now, in guns from the 80’s mostly, with no ill effects. The Lanber is a tough old bus, and I doubt it will suffer. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 A wonderful gesture look forward to seeing your pictures personally don’t think you will have a problem with it as there standard steel cartridge that you are using I should do something similar but with a side by side with choked barrels but I’m busy at the moment it’s hard to get a good picture of the bore of a gun and easier to do from the muzzle few pictures to try and help on your experiment best of luck looking forward to seeing how it goes bore measurements stock configuration gun weight proof marks attempt to take pictures of the bore note two different guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Thankyou OF, it will be good to get a SxS view on it too! Ill get some photos tomorrow of it all and post them up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 There's a series of videos on YouTube where Nick Horton uses steel shot through a 3" chambered Spanish sbs which people might find informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 A series of 5 or 6 videos https://youtu.be/v4HYNYJuDbg?si=XlmVf-7RH4yP9DRp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 Amazing! I always welcome any advise or videos on the matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 It is however not the whole picture this "overall pressure". The pressure curve is different. That is the pressure gets higher, quicker, with cartridges loaded for steel shot. This means that the action is stressed more than with powders used in lead shot loaded cartridges where the burn takes place over a longer time. Therefore a gun used for steel shot is likely to go off the face sooner than if used with lead shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: It is however not the whole picture this "overall pressure". The pressure curve is different. That is the pressure gets higher, quicker, with cartridges loaded for steel shot. This means that the action is stressed more than with powders used in lead shot loaded cartridges where the burn takes place over a longer time. Therefore a gun used for steel shot is likely to go off the face sooner than if used with lead shot. Can I ask where you’ve got this info’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scully said: Can I ask where you’ve got this info’? Yes. A Proof House Guardian. Edited January 1 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 14 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Yes. A Proof House Guardian. So where in the public domain can I read about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Scully said: So where in the public domain can I read about this? I have no idea where it can be found with a single one mouse click. But the graphs will be there. Or you could email the Proof House of course? Edited January 1 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: I have no idea where it can be found with a single one mouse click. But the graphs will be there. Or you could email the Proof House of course? Have just emailed the Birmingham Proof House. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Scully said: Have just emailed the Birmingham Proof House. 👍 👍 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 I will be interested in the findings from the proof house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) Here's some stuff from the internet. Which is not in itself a guarantee of accurate information. The ".410" is BTW not just about steel in small gauge but all use of steel. https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/ammunition/steel-shot-vs-lead-shot-the-hard-facts-about-steel-shot-130044/ https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel1.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel2.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel3.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel4.pdf Edited January 1 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Steel shot will mark the end of an era for the Damascus barrel muzzle loaders and early hammer guns and a important part of a gun heritage. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, enfieldspares said: Here's some stuff from the internet. Which is not in itself a guarantee of accurate information. The ".410" is BTW not just about steel in small gauge but all use of steel. https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/ammunition/steel-shot-vs-lead-shot-the-hard-facts-about-steel-shot-130044/ https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel1.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel2.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel3.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel4.pdf That is some very interesting reading!!! Thankyou! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 7 hours ago, enfieldspares said: Here's some stuff from the internet. Which is not in itself a guarantee of accurate information. The ".410" is BTW not just about steel in small gauge but all use of steel. https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/ammunition/steel-shot-vs-lead-shot-the-hard-facts-about-steel-shot-130044/ https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel1.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel2.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel3.pdf https://www.fourten.org.uk/steel4.pdf As said very interesting reading, cheer's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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