marsh man Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 6 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Simply because with two freezers stuff gets put in on top of other stuff and I lose track. Any stuff that might be is on the bottom have never seen the light of day for a number of months if not years , will we be seeing a packet of beef burgers made by Birds Eye on the Antique Roadshow that are now a collectors item and worth good money , who knows , you might be able to exchange your collectors frozen items for a few slabs of the best Red cased cartridges , tell yer , there are no flies on T C , Edited January 26 by marsh man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 11 hours ago, Krico woodcock said: All the way it is packed before freezing.. anything properly vacum packed will last a long time in freezer, without any harm to the meat.. as for air fryer, pigeon breast, could dry it out, I'd rub some olive oil on them first, and season, before putting in airfryer. Air fryers work better with, meat with higher fat content, eg pork chops, sausages etc, yep, got the Lidl vacuum sealer some time ago, food keeps longer and does not get frost burnt, even keeps fresh food longer as it removes all the air, vacuum pack most things that go in the freezer now. Agreed, I would think air frying pigeon breasts would dry them out but just wondering if raping some streaky bacon around them might help plus the fat would add a bit of flavour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, old'un said: just wondering if raping some streaky bacon around them might help plus the fat would add a bit of flavour. That's a good technique and one I use with chicken breasts (which I also slit and stuff with Paxo). Juniper berries also flavour pigeon beautifully, but not sure how you would do that in an air fryer (I don't use an air fryer but usually casserole pigeon breasts myself as they do dry out easily) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 21 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: That's a good technique and one I use with chicken breasts (which I also slit and stuff with Paxo). Juniper berries also flavour pigeon beautifully, but not sure how you would do that in an air fryer (I don't use an air fryer but usually casserole pigeon breasts myself as they do dry out easily) you should get one, we have the one below, does fantastic spit roast chicken and kebabs, takes a 1.5kilo chicken but needs trussing, there’s just the two of us so it saves on electric. you can find them cheaper....linky..https://www.hockridge-appliance-centre.co.uk/brands/5227/tower-t17076-xpress-pro-combo-air-fryer-with-rotisserie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 53 minutes ago, old'un said: you should get one Thanks for the link. I do have (a quite basic) Philips one, but I have never 'got on' with it. I's an absolute *** to clean, the juices etc get on the element and it smokes, and I just prefer my ordinary fan oven. The saving in electricity is quite minor as a typical oven usage is around 2 or 3 KWh, so around 50 pence. An air fryer might halve that, but it's not a big saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRYAN3 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, marsh man said: I hadn't heard of Witham but just looked it up and it is a fair way away from mine but if you do get stuck with finding some fresh ones then let me know and I will send you some frozen breasts that will only be a few days old , the roost shooting start the first Saturday in February so it wouldn't be to hard to drop on to some . MM That's a very kind jesture sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 17 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I know, I might try some Sausages in it tomorrow , I like them well cooked as i get in the Frying pan Hello, Air Fryer or Frying pan, Fry Pan won today 🤔😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: Thanks for the link. I do have (a quite basic) Philips one, but I have never 'got on' with it. I's an absolute *** to clean, the juices etc get on the element and it smokes, and I just prefer my ordinary fan oven. The saving in electricity is quite minor as a typical oven usage is around 2 or 3 KWh, so around 50 pence. An air fryer might halve that, but it's not a big saving. here here........just seems very strange cooking something with a hairdryer.......its a fad like them awful george foreman grills ....total rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, ditchman said: here here........just seems very strange cooking something with a hairdryer.......its a fad like them awful george foreman grills ....total rubbish In YOUR opinion and quite honestly without trying it out how can you comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: In YOUR opinion and quite honestly without trying it out how can you comment? im an engineer i can visulise.....anyway i miss the enjoyment of watching something cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, ditchman said: im an engineer i can visulise.....anyway i miss the enjoyment of watching something cook I'm an Engineer and can see the simplicity and speed of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I'm not an engineer, and I will never buy one as I just don't see the point. They're something invented for lazy people 🎣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 7 minutes ago, JKD said: I'm not an engineer, and I will never buy one as I just don't see the point. They're something invented for lazy people 🎣 Yes, absolutely and they take little effort to master and produce good food easily, but they are NOT for the OLDER Generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Yes, absolutely and they take little effort to master and produce good food easily, but they are NOT for the OLDER Generation. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 they dont use air fryers for the lord mayors banquet.......the Ritz grill dont use them....cowboys on cattle drives dont use them....indian resteraunts and chinese resteraunts dont use them...fish and chips shops dont use them......kebab shops dont use them they are just another fad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, ditchman said: they dont use air fryers for the lord mayors banquet.......the Ritz grill dont use them....cowboys on cattle drives dont use them....indian resteraunts and chinese resteraunts dont use them...fish and chips shops dont use them......kebab shops dont use them they are just another fad If you say so, ever the non experimental type eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: If you say so, ever the non experimental type eh? i bet ed milliband uses one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: they dont use air fryers for the lord mayors banquet.......the Ritz grill dont use them....cowboys on cattle drives dont use them....indian resteraunts and chinese resteraunts dont use them...fish and chips shops dont use them......kebab shops dont use them they are just another fad Maybe they use them in MacDonalds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: NOT for the OLDER Generation. You can say that with just about anything that you haven't used before , I found a lap top very , very hard to master and even now I only know the basics , same with my washing machine , the main cooker and even the top one I don't always get it right , still there is normally a way in getting these things sorted and if you wanted to learn something then it is possible , if you are not really interested in how certain things work then the learning part can be very difficult , I don't think I would bother with a air fryer , maybe I have got a lot more time than those who have to work for a living . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, marsh man said: You can say that with just about anything that you haven't used before , I found a lap top very , very hard to master and even now I only know the basics , same with my washing machine , the main cooker and even the top one I don't always get it right , still there is normally a way in getting these things sorted and if you wanted to learn something then it is possible , if you are not really interested in how certain things work then the learning part can be very difficult , I don't think I would bother with a air fryer , maybe I have got a lot more time than those who have to work for a living . MM But at least you've BLOODY tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: But at least you've BLOODY tried. I agree , you don't know until you have tried , if the interest is there in the first place then the learning curve is a lot easier , if you haven't got any interest then it would be a waste of time trying to learn how these things work , you would then just give up at the first hurdle . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 2 minutes ago, marsh man said: I agree , you don't know until you have tried , if the interest is there in the first place then the learning curve is a lot easier , if you haven't got any interest then it would be a waste of time trying to learn how these things work , you would then just give up at the first hurdle . MM Like the Kings neighbour? Edited January 26 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 nope ...not for me...im happy with the way i cook....i have no objection to change but change isnt for everyone......forced change is a socialist doctrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krico woodcock Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 56 minutes ago, ditchman said: nope ...not for me...im happy with the way i cook....i have no objection to change but change isnt for everyone......forced change is a socialist doctrine What type of a oven do you use, i assume its a AGA.. I have air fryer, its lidl own brand, and its handy for cooking certain things.. everything thing else is cooked on rangemaster, gas ovens, gas hobs.. gas oven in my opinion is a far better way to cook over a fan assisted oven, as in leaves meat etc far more moist, fan electric wants to dry everything out.. my home house has a rayburn royal , oil cooker, again lovely to cook on. My grandparents house, which my auntie now owns, always had a rayburn solid fuel cooker, my grandmother could turn out scrumptious food out of that, my aunt can also.. but I was also fortunate to know a woman, all my life till she died, who done all her cooking over a open turf/ stick fire in small irish cottage, with all traditional Irish cooking utensils, cast iron skillets, etc hung on a crook, crane, over open fire, the food that old woman could turn out was out of this world, brown soda bread , white soda bread, wheaten bread, apple, rhubarb tarts, potato bread, boxty, and a load of other stuff, that was just the baking, then she turn out a fried breakfast like no other, as well a as any dinner,, she would do a mix a teal, woodcock, snipe, in one of those skillets, and i tell you this, you would eat bones and all.. she came from a time when women in Ireland could make a meal out of nothing, because they had very little.. when she died 17 years ago that was a end of a eara.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 i live in rented acc'...and just make do with what ive got in a very small galley kitchen...its a normal electric fan oven.......quite frankly i dont have room for another appliance..the kitchen is that small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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