pegleg31 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 ive worked in a prison and trust me they've got it better than us after working their pison would be no deterent to me however coming out and seeing the girlfriend whos a probation officer would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaseone Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 train them and send them out to the Afghan, see how they like that 7.62short coming at you by an AK47 bet they would become better people or have no mates if they did not toe the line. TEAMWORK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Biffo1262 Thats some thing that rest soley at the governments door step and they are the ones who have to accept responsabilety!........Who am I kidding the government NEVER accept responsabilety for anything......But I can see mobs taking to the streets rightly or wrongly.....and if they do i would hope they get the right scum every time as i might concider joinning them if that were the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 train them and send them out to the Afghan, see how they like that 7.62short coming at you by an AK47 bet they would become better people or have no mates if they did not toe the line.TEAMWORK No way, The army will be spending too much time on them, plus would you trust someone who has just beat the **** out of someone for no reason hold a rifle. NO WAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 another argument in my book which supports the reintroduction of corporal punishment. hey, i'd even volunteer my services to carry out the punishments. there's nothing like a good dose of job satisfaction to make one smile when one wakes up in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 We dont hang because the liberal puffs that run this country decide its against THEIR beliefs and feelings. it really is time that those elected woke up to the fact that they should represent OUR views not their own, ok you may get the odd one wrong and thats a shame, but hey what a deterant in the first place, bring back pierpoint I say. cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakker01 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 you can always call you councillor, lobby your MP, write to the PM, if you feel strongly enough about any subject.... if they feel enough people can warrant a parlimentry hearing......you VOTE..you get !! Women have been doing it for years, to become the strongest voice heard for there 'whatever cause' !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I agree with all the above .....But I carn't help wandering how long it wiil be before the public has enough of the softlt, softly approach and resorts to MOB RULE because the police "CARNT" do anything and the Juges "WONT" impose a sentance to fit the crime......At the end of the day 20 burley guys kick the living **** out of the little scum WHO landed the fatal blow? .... (isn't that what their deffence is!?!) Hell yes!!! i like your style! There should be 2 standardised forms of death sentence:- A: Leg and a wing pull them in half whilst holding them over a fire B: Strapping them up to a heart monitor and beating & torturing them to within an inch of theyre excuse for lives stopping each time just before they die The only trouble I have with vigilante actions and hanging for that matter is - what happens if the 'culprit' is found to be innocent of the offence at a later date. I am reminded of the actions of two 'gentlemen' who took it open themsleves (somewhere in Wales I believe) to inflict what turned out to be a fatal beating to man who had been in a police station being interviewed over an offnce against a child. It was only after these guys had been lauded as 'heroes' that is transpired that the victim was being interviewed as a witness to help the police over the incident and was not the culprit! Anyone that urges any such action or even condones it is sending out messages to those people who are most likely to be influenced by those opinions, that it is OK to behave in that manner. Not so long ago there was a thread on another shooting forum that opined that paedophiles should be shot, and that from someone with the best interests of the shooting sport at heart? Just what sort of message does that send out to the anti-gun lobby. Fortunately the thread was pulled pretty quickly before too much damage was done. The law must be seen to take it's course; but whether the punishment is enough or even conistent in each case another matter altogether. That is the fly in the ointment when the capital punishment debate is raised. What if the wrong person has their life snubbed out???:lol: There is no compensation for that. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 on that assuption then nobody would be punished for any crime (Nearly the case NOW!).....But something has to happen and SOON! Like i said softly, softly approach will only be tollerated by the public for so long before they have enough and resort to MOB RULE. Then sadly all hell will break loose and it will be the public to blame not the authority's?..... Yeah right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 National service, Corporal and Capital punishment and tougher sentancing is the answer imo. No more 3 to a cell, because it a criminal training camp/social club especially for YP's (under 21 year olds) 23 hour a day bang up, no assosiation, slop out in a bucket, no smoking, no canteen. Make it tough again doing bird. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 on that assuption then nobody would be punished for any crime (Nearly the case NOW!).....But something has to happen and SOON!Like i said softly, softly approach will only be tollerated by the public for so long before they have enough and resort to MOB RULE. Then sadly all hell will break loose and it will be the public to blame not the authority's?..... Yeah right! There is a lot of difference in the wrong person being jailed (think how many there have been of those) and the wrong person being hanged. The real answer is for prison sentences to be increased and mean what they say. "Life" should mean life, not seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 National service, Corporal and Capital punishment and tougher sentancing is the answer imo.No more 3 to a cell, because it a criminal training camp/social club especially for YP's (under 21 year olds) 23 hour a day bang up, no assosiation, slop out in a bucket, no smoking, no canteen. Make it tough again doing bird. Tony If you'd seen at first hand (as I have with both the French & Italian) what National Service does to a Nations Armed Services', you would not be such a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) National service, Corporal and Capital punishment and tougher sentancing is the answer imo.No more 3 to a cell, because it a criminal training camp/social club especially for YP's (under 21 year olds) 23 hour a day bang up, no assosiation, slop out in a bucket, no smoking, no canteen. Make it tough again doing bird. Tony Absolutely, Tony! Also: No windows in the cell; any light or daylight to be earned by pedalling an exercise bike/generator; the harder you pedal, the more daylight revealed through a window for a given time. Any excess electricity is put back into the grid. Fitness, too! The prison would be a circular building which rotated once every 24 hours, revealing each prisoner's meal as it did. Electric shaver, pedal driven. NO contact with the warders. (to protect their families and cut down drugs supply.) NO smoking. NO television other than a news channel; this has to be 'pedalled for'. NO access to any religious material whatever the faith of the prisoner. Full term of sentence. ('10 years' means 10 years.) Edited January 10, 2008 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 National service, Corporal and Capital punishment and tougher sentancing is the answer imo.No more 3 to a cell, because it a criminal training camp/social club especially for YP's (under 21 year olds) 23 hour a day bang up, no assosiation, slop out in a bucket, no smoking, no canteen. Make it tough again doing bird. Tony If you'd seen at first hand (as I have with both the French & Italian) what National Service does to a Nations Armed Services', you would not be such a fan. I wouldnt want them to serve the country just get a taste of the disapline. If we ever needed cannon fodder we could use the paedophiles. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 National service, Corporal and Capital punishment and tougher sentancing is the answer imo.No more 3 to a cell, because it a criminal training camp/social club especially for YP's (under 21 year olds) 23 hour a day bang up, no assosiation, slop out in a bucket, no smoking, no canteen. Make it tough again doing bird. Tony putting people into that regime for long periods would cause far more problems it would litterally drive prople mad. However it shouldn't be easy they should be made to work bloody hard while they are in. 12 hour days doing hard manual labour tends to give people something to think about and not to want to go back to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 National service, Corporal and Capital punishment and tougher sentancing is the answer imo.No more 3 to a cell, because it a criminal training camp/social club especially for YP's (under 21 year olds) 23 hour a day bang up, no assosiation, slop out in a bucket, no smoking, no canteen. Make it tough again doing bird. Tony putting people into that regime for long periods would cause far more problems it would litterally drive prople mad. However it shouldn't be easy they should be made to work bloody hard while they are in. 12 hour days doing hard manual labour tends to give people something to think about and not to want to go back to. I know a few people than will agree with me and have experienced the regime I suggest. They are not residavists(spelling) they saw the light. Prison in the 80's wasnt far off this but 3 to a cell was to much with all the other bits thrown in. Reformed criminals should be asked to help with suggestions for the never to come prison and judicial system reforms. If they have sorted themselves out what made them think twice about re offending. Education has a lot to say in this as well with or liberal attitude we now have to show. I'm glad I got out of the Further education system and moved on, I would hate to be a lecturer nowdays. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpitup Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 scum that do this to people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7177716.stm Hanging would be to quick. Make 'em suffer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 scum that do this to people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7177716.stm Hanging would be to quick. Make 'em suffer! I'd have them on a lifetime treadmill like a giant hamstser wheel hooked up to a power generator...... make them suffer and give back to society. Animals they are. I felt sick reading the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningBoy Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Interstingly these animals where trained boxers; a sport that we are routinely told is a way of getting scum like this out of their bad ways and channeling their agression into exercise blah blah blah. Or it's a way of making violent cretins more effective at beating up the defenceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Cut their ***** off and do what ever to them prison, national service etc. but at least they wont bread another generation of SCUM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 scum that do this to people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7177716.stm Hanging would be to quick. Make 'em suffer! I'd have them on a lifetime treadmill like a giant hamstser wheel hooked up to a power generator...... make them suffer and give back to society. Animals they are. I felt sick reading the report. then have them claiming disability benifit because they say they got a mental illness. If we put these criminals into National service it will divert the training that we need to give to our soldiers, to much time will be spent on them. put a secure high fence around a stone quarry and make them break up stones 6 days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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