lock&load Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 hi all can anyone help me out with some live rabbits to use as breeding stock,unfortunatly i only have guns to catch them so if you can help me i would be realy greatful i am in blackburn lancs so please p.m me for any further details you may have or requirement you need for the rabbits transport or cost. please dont p.m saying you feel this my be illeagal as i have checked with b.a.s.c and it is fine for my requirements, and the moderators removed my post until i confirmed what i allready thought,but better to be safe than sorry eh !! russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) sorry if it is a silly question but why do you want live rabbits? is it for their meat? Edited February 24, 2008 by dead-eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 At a guess, I reckon that he wishes to catch live rabbits and then re locate them onto his own land where they can breed and flourish. Therefore providing some sporting shooting in the future. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&load Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 as webber quite correctly stated for re stocking, a peice of my own land and another site were hit badly with mixy about 18 months back and has never realy got back on its feet,and as such other parts of the food chain have sufferd,even though i am a vermin shooter aswell as a stalker ,the land in question holds no livestock farming wise. so the re introduction to the weak strain will enable the land to flurish once more and again present meny long spent summer evening shooting,and give the quite mangey looking foxes that i often come accros some,extra food i might shoot em but i dont like to see por quality almost starved looking animals.to wich my bullet,i am sure is often welcome so if you can help great if not thanks for taking the time to read my topic. russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I think you'll probably find this is illegal However just get a couple of live catch traps off fleabay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 If the local rabbits cant repopulate the area themselves i would be looking for the cause ,and after 18 month they should have got over myxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 L&L, A couple of questions 1) is this land that you own? 2) do you not think that controlling the fox on the land would take stress of the remaining rabbits and allow them to recover? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Most of us have have overshot at some time and now need to let a few survive if we are using them for sport rather than vermin control. You need to make a decision - do you want to shoot them or save them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I'm pretty surprised if this is legal, if nothing else you run the risk of moving disease about there are a few other diseases that wild populations can get and moving them from one area to another means you can move infected ones to areas with no resistance etc. As well as what your neighbours think assuming you own the land about releasing vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I can see a situation where the transfer of rabbits MIGHT be legal. As in the stocking of a rabbit pen, for dog training. How big and secure the pen is, is probably open to interpretation. TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I agree Tiercel - for a rabbit pen only. Otherwise, rabbits are considered to be a pest species and as such to encourage them to breed (wherever) must be considered illegal. Unless of course, someone knows different....... Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&load Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 i checked with basc and as long as they are disease free and no threat to the envirment or other farms and you have consent you are ok,but must be managed properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 L&L is refering to the following: There is no specific offence for re-locating rabbit, although they are a pest. However, there are 2 things you need to be mindful of. 1. If the rabbit has myxy, it is ILLEGAL to move it to other land. 2. As rabbits are pests, the land owner has a duty to control them, if he does not then he is liable for damage they cause / damage prevention, so why anyone would want to add rabbit to their land and thus risk getting a bill god only knows! Maybe L&L is qualified to certify the rabbits that he moves are myxy free. Maybe he has bottomless pockets I cant say that I support his proposal, but can understand his quest for sport. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Is introducing myxy illegal? Cos i have been refused shooting permission somewhere on the grounds that they dont need it cos they said they would deal with the rabbits by putting a dose of myxy down!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Is introducing myxy illegal? Cos i have been refused shooting permission somewhere on the grounds that they dont need it cos they said they would deal with the rabbits by putting a dose of myxy down!! As far as I know putting down that vile disease is illegal. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Is introducing myxy illegal? Cos i have been refused shooting permission somewhere on the grounds that they dont need it cos they said they would deal with the rabbits by putting a dose of myxy down!! Yes! webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher100 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Under Section 12 of the Pests Act 1954, it is an offence to knowingly spread myxomatosis to uninfected rabbits. The Specified Animal Pathogens Order 1998 prohibits the introduction into an animal of the live virus causing viral haemorrhagic disease (VHD) of rabbits, except where such introduction is undertaken under the authority of a licence. These prohibitions mean that the deliberate spreading of myxomatosis or VHD cannot be used as a legal method of controlling rabbits. and VHD has no signs on the rabbit when carrying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&load Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 a grounds man at a local golf course near myself was done last year for introducing mixy and if i am correct in remembering the tale it was spread by or to the peacock population on the grounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I don't think peacocks could catch myxy. FM :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Mixy is normally spead by the rabbit flea (Spilopsyllus cuniculi), which are only interested in errh, rabbits. The (Rabbit) fleas' ability to bread is wholly relient upon the hormones in pregant bunnies. Clickies >>here<< & >>here<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 they can't FM but don't be surprised at the post, the more I see the more I think Pins conspiracy theory on the poster being a re-incarnation of a certain person who got banned recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&load Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 they can't FM but don't be surprised at the post, the more I see the more I think Pins conspiracy theory on the poster being a re-incarnation of a certain person who got banned recently if you are refering to me i aint no reincarnation of anyone ,and if you read what i said i think that is how the story went not 100% sure so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salisburykeeper Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 It seems a little strange to me that anyone would want to re introduce a pest species back into an area after finally eradicating the original problem? I know over the years many local hunters who have been offered anything up to £10 each per live rabbit for "training lurchers" and other running dogs when infact the rabbits are being used for bet days with the travellers! Im not saying that this is your purpose so dont get me wrong on this but I just wanted to make people aware incase they where unknowingly pulled into illegal activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 It seems a little strange to me that anyone would want to re introduce a pest species back into an area after finally eradicating the original problem?I know over the years many local hunters who have been offered anything up to £10 each per live rabbit for "training lurchers" and other running dogs when infact the rabbits are being used for bet days with the travellers! Im not saying that this is your purpose so dont get me wrong on this but I just wanted to make people aware incase they where unknowingly pulled into illegal activity Sounds more like organised coursing events that you speak of? :blink: FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 i will help you mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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