Ariel Goldman Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hello my new friends, Im Ariel Goldman from Argentina, new in the forum, just want to say that I guide wild doves and pigeons hunts every single day in Argentina where I own a fantastic hunting lodge in Cordoba province. Hope I can meet new friends in the forum and please any question about Argentina bird hunt,big game hunt or fishing are really wellcome. I have two groups of hunters coming next days, we are expecting great weather about 22 to 28 degrees, and I m sure we will kill 250 pigeons per hunter per day guaranteed. Best regards, Ariel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamHall Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 hi there welcome to pigeon watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hi there sounds like a great way to earn a living, out of interest roughly how much are your hunts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Goldman Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hello my new friends,thanks for your quick answers, The pigeon hunt is almost year round February to Mid December, I guaranteed 200 to 250 pigeons per hunter per day, there is no limit for the doves, you can kill easily 1000 doves a day per hunter. The price (includes 4 hunting days,all the meals,open bar,wine,beer,whisky, first class lodging,guides,transportation,transfers in/out. Does not includes licenses,shotgun shells,and Airfare.) is u$s 2800 dollars. Hope you like it, see more info and pictures in www.maers-goldman.com Best regards, Ariel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Saw a tv program not to long ago about dove hunting in argentina . It really did look like busy shooting . The guns certinly got some shooting in . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeplemming Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 1000 doves a day you must be joking thats mad per hunter aswell wow that might be something good to go to in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Have you got any pictures of the 1000 bird days Ariel? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 do you have website with further details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 www.maers-goldman.com You have to go into the shooting and it gives you the option, wing, big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hello and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Goldman Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hello my new friends, please see the pictures in www.maers-goldman.com , click wingshooting and step over the pictures to see them bigger. Hope you like it, last year I did the dove hunting world record in a day, went to SCI to certify the record with a public notary in the field, 5601 doves in 11 huors non stop shooting. Shot 7900 rounds!!!!!certified 100 percent of them in the ground, unbelievable but true. Ariel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhunt Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 hi there, I have a friend who with a party of five guns shot 59,000 doves in a week,dont know what area they were in thought..........awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Those are hugh numbers , i think i might still prefer a 100 bird day to a 1000 bird day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I wonder how long the area can sustain such numbers being shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) i watched a video of this shooting and not what i call sport the amount of doves flying over the shooters heads i couldnt see the point in picking out your bird just point your gun into the sky and empty it ? 1 man 2 loaders useing semi's deffinately a lot lota birds thou no need for hides just stand in middle of the feild .the chap in video estmated that a shooter would have upto 1 million pass over his head in the day . what do they do with the body's sod being a plucker heh. everyone to his own but not for me. try searching .cordoba argentina jj vids and hoto's Edited October 9, 2008 by bignoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) Difficult one this...I wouldn't condem it as I'm a dedicated hunter through and through and each to his own BUT it's not for me. I know they have millions of doves in Argentina and the farmers need to protect crops but IMO shooting 1000's of anything just isn't cricket ol' boy! Unless you're talking clays of course. Edited October 9, 2008 by Highlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive By Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I thought the same, its like some kind of genocide and also not really sport, if you can just fire into the air and hit something where is the challenge? The best thing about live game shooting is the anticipation and challenge not slaughtering things by the thousand. Should I say this... perfect for Americans. Good spin selling as a kind of pest control for farmers but when did pest control become such an expensive hobby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I thought the same, its like some kind of genocide and also not really sport, if you can just fire into the air and hit something where is the challenge? The best thing about live game shooting is the anticipation and challenge not slaughtering things by the thousand. Should I say this... perfect for Americans. Good spin selling as a kind of pest control for farmers but when did pest control become such an expensive hobby! Its really not like that at all some of the shooting is very hard at time if your shooting flighting birds they fly the same speed as english patridges do and range from 30 to 60 yards up so they are not as easy as you think ,they also move a lot in flight when they spot you the reason you can shoot so many (like anything as long as you can hit them ) is that at least where i went the guide told us over a million fly over a day so you get plenty of chance to get a good bag as you tend to be shooting for about 5 to 7 hours a day . when it comes to feild shooting they are a bit easy at times but they are still very fast when they come in and like i say the they move alot in flight . I enjoyed both and they really tested all of us who went ! plus the birds dont go to waste as the were given away to the locals who love them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Goldman Posted October 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Hello to everybody, The dove and pigeon population in my Area is increasing exponentially because there is more food,the roosting areas are protected and because the shooting pressure, our biologist estimates that the natural dove answer for the stress is lay more eggs, for this reason they are hatching 7 to 8 times a year per dove. Keep shooting!!!!!!!! Best , Ariel. Hope you want to try, looking forward to have new friends from England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Difficult one this...I wouldn't condem it as I'm a dedicated hunter through and through and each to his own BUT it's not for me. I know they have millions of doves in Argentina and the farmers need to protect crops but IMO shooting 1000's of anything just isn't cricket ol' boy! Unless you're talking clays of course. is there much dfference between 1000 dove days in areas hammered by them than 2-300 pigeons in this country which is deemed perfectly acceptable on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chop Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 How much are shells and licences over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 is there much dfference between 1000 dove days in areas hammered by them than 2-300 pigeons in this country which is deemed perfectly acceptable on here Exactly. It's a numbers game. My understanding is that the number of doves over there is astronomical and increasing so shooting that amount barely, if at all, keeps the population in check. Can you imagine a million doves landing in your fields for a bit of a feed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I seem to remember that the passenger pigeon in the US numbered millions until it was shot out to extinction. If it's so easy, why bother? Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 The dove population in South America and parts of Mexico is enormous and the birds breed year round. There is no comparison to the wood pigeon numbers in the UK. I have personally seen the flocks in Mexico and its unbelievable. Argentina is 1,073,518 square miles, the UK is 94,251, there are probably less people shooting doves in Argentina than shoot wood pigeon in the UK. Its also worth reading the history of the demise of the passenger pigeon. It wasn't "shot out to extinction". http://www.eco-action.org/dt/pigeon.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Goldman Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hello again, Shells are 14 to 15 u$s dollars per box of 25, licenses are 65 u$s dollars per day. The situation is totally different than in the states, the Argentinian local people don t hunt doves and pigeons, and there is millions of acres of wild roosting areas, the problem in USA was the agriculture killed the natural enviroment and roosting areas, we still plenty of them.I m pretty sure we can hunt at least another 100 years without problems. Best, Ariel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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