becassier Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Sleep easy harnser. I was just winding you up. Gawd two-stroke must have really shot up in price. I though I paid £3 for it last time I needed to fill my strimmer. Shows how often I strim around the trees in th garden. Becassier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I've just bought 500ml of 2 stroke oil for 99p at my local Morrisons and added half to the tankfull of diesel in my Fabia vRS. Couldn't detect any difference - but then it is already a smooth engine. I still do add a teaspoon of Castrol R to the tank of my Rickman Weslake, purely for the smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'm still sceptical until I see a properly peer reviewed atricle in an engineering journal :-) Don't forget that modern diesels have catalytic convertors that aren't cheap. I just had to replace the one on our V70, the main delaer quoted £700 supplied and fitted, the local place did it for £340. The amount of lead in leaded fuel in miniscule but destroys cats, what damage are you going to be doing by adding two stroke oil and whever additives are in it? This might be the best engineering advancement in diesel engines ever, but I'm happy to let you lot experiment and wait a couple of years to see if there's any downside. Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 try it if you want it won't do any harm, except to the wallet. From experience my brothers laguna ran well on sump oil when the turbo seal failed Personally with veg oil and diesel being about the same cost these days think I'll stick to the proper stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Adding an additive to your car fuel is not a new idea and has been going on for years . years ago we used to add redex to the petrol to help lubricate the upper cyclinders and to help cut down the carbon build up on the pistons and the internals of the engine .They were the days when you had to strip down your engine every 20,000 miles and give it a decoke . Modern day fuels and oils seem to have eleveated this problem . Unfortunately over the last few years fuel suppliers have been made to remove most of the additives from their fuel by the government because of the pressure from the green lobby .Therefore your modern day fuels lack a lubricant to lube your fuel pump and injector pump . As well as lubing your fuel pumps the twostroke oil will help to remove carbon build up in your engine ,act as an upper cylinder lubricant and clean out your injectors ,making for a smoother running engine. Its not rocket science and has been going on for years . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I was going to put in some stihl 2 stroke oil I have in the shed. Then I realised it is red and if I got pulled over and my tank dipped by customs & excise they would probably think I was running red diesel as it would colour the fuel red. I better get some green 2 stroke oil before I try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Oh b*****r! the two-stroke oil I bought from Morrisons is red. I suppose the risk of being stopped by C&E in deepest suburbia is pretty remote though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzeneye Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 ill try it on the works van first !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Probably alright on older diesels without a particulate filter but I would definitely research further before suggesting it's use on a new vehicle with the filter fitted. Could be interesting when the thing goes into regeneration mode. Anybody know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 This is the one to read first ref two stroke oil in diesel fuel as an additive . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have some Castrol R, I use on the chainsaw... I think i'll give it a go. I love the smell of Castrol R.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lee Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have some Castrol R, I use on the chainsaw... I think i'll give it a go. I love the smell of Castrol R.... :good: Oh yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bangs Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I use 50/50 veg oil and disel in my monterey 3.1, Makro are selling it 15 quid for 20 Ltrs, think I'll get some of that 2 stroke oil and give it a go, like you say it can't do any harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper6 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Are we talking normal two stroke oil eg stihl brand or similar? If so ill give it a try get some diesel additive from halfords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) This 2-stroke in diesel idea has been floating around Landrover Forums for ages, I think I first read it when I was in the Discovery Owners Club and thereby had access to their web site. The German Scientist's name is familiar though I cannot be certain. Perhaps a trawl through some 4x4 forums would shed more light. Edited February 14, 2010 by john_r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 harnser i`m not trying to see fault in your idea but surely if it was a good thing the oil companies would be adding it before it gets to the fore courts? What makes you think oil companies are remotely interested in good ideas, fuel economy and the longevity of your engine? This information has been around for a long time now, and I have been using it if I fill up in the UK anyone who travels abroad wil already be aware that their engine is smoother quiter and has a tad more power due to Johnny Foreigner getting different fuel to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Probably alright on older diesels without a particulate filter but I would definitely research further before suggesting it's use on a new vehicle with the filter fitted. Could be interesting when the thing goes into regeneration mode. Anybody know for sure? Nonsense if you own a diesel car you will see on the log book as fuel type it says heavy oil, adding more oil will not harm, and certainly not at the levels of mixing advocated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I was going to put in some stihl 2 stroke oil I have in the shed.Then I realised it is red and if I got pulled over and my tank dipped by customs & excise they would probably think I was running red diesel as it would colour the fuel red. I better get some green 2 stroke oil before I try it. These days you are not tested for red diesel by dipping, but by the insertion of a probe up the exhaust pipe, therefore your red 2 stroke oil is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bangs Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 These days you are not tested for red diesel by dipping, but by the insertion of a probe up the exhaust pipe, therefore your red 2 stroke oil is fine I live about a mile from a VOSA testing station and they definately DO dip the tank to test for red diesel. Speaking from very recent experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Confirm tank dipping is alive and well! I doubt if this small an ammount of red stuff could be seen though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I pulled into Toddington services once. There were Customs and Excise in there, dipping tanks. They were very busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I think you are alright wth upto something like 6% red diesel anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Whatever, the addition of 2 stroke oil, of whatever colour, will not render white diesel into red, especially if you have a reciept for purchase of same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I think they could tell when a vehicle has been run on Red, a little red oil in the tank wont show up like Red diesel will.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I think they could tell when a vehicle has been run on Red, a little red oil in the tank wont show up like Red diesel will.. agreed, anyone who has seen red diesel will know just how strong the dye is now to try some in the landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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