viking Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 dont worry im not turning syco, my mate who is a bit of a gob ****e reckons he has a deactavated side by side, that he has sawn down the barrels and the stock, i know its ok for him to own the deactivated shotgun but im not sure about the sawn off bit, so im just checking, he said its never been out of his house and that he doesnt flash it about, he just did it to see what it looked like, cheers, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexm Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Yes it's still legal if it's deactivated, assuming he hasn't removed any form of barrel blocking by chopping the ends off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 A case of Sad but true , best find a new friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 I hope he dont take it outside his house cos its probably the most intimidating weapon ever used in a robbery and should anyone else manage to get hold of it-the rozzers wont be happy.Not sure of the legalities of doing it either even when deactivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seisobs Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Don't touch it with a 10 foot barge pole mate, have noting to do with it, infact don't even ask or offer to look at it even if he insists. Stay well clear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Lefty or righty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexm Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Also agree with above. Legalities aside, being seen with it would end up in a high probability of being shot by armed police! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 dont worry i want no part of it let alone touch it, he probably hasnt even got one, like i said he is a gob ****e and hes not really a friend more just some one i know, i just wanted to be able to go back and tell him its ilegal and to get rid, lefty just for you scifiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 and out of interest, how is a deactivated shotgun deactivated, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 dont worry i want no part of it let alone touch it, he probably hasnt even got one, like i said he is a gob ****e and hes not really a friend more just some one i know, i just wanted to be able to go back and tell him its ilegal and to get rid, lefty just for you scifiden Just my luck, 1st lefty shotgun on here for a long time & it's bloody a sawnoff nice one Viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Just my luck, 1st lefty shotgun on here for a long time & it's bloody a sawnoff nice one Viking might make a good skeet gun for you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 and out of interest, how is a deactivated shotgun deactivated, Couple of champagne corks stuck up the barrels should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 What does he do with it? I bet he stands in front of a full-length mirror, shouting "Do you know what Nemesis means?" when he thinks nobody is about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpF-oUvwruI...feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 might make a good skeet gun for you, Good point Viking, i need all the help i can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 What does he do with it? I bet he stands in front of a full-length mirror, shouting "Do you know what Nemesis means?" when he thinks nobody is about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpF-oUvwruI...feature=related ****! Havent seen that film for years!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 When you receive the deactivated firearm back from the proof house it states the barrel length on the de-act certificate ,If you then shorten the barrels it must be sent for re-inspection at the proof house as technically you have significantly altered a major item of its working parts that has been stamped by the inspector and the deactivation and inspection/certificate is no longer valid. how to deactivate a side by side shotgun Both barrels must have a slot cut in them from the breech end a minimum of 8mm wide and underneath for the full length of any forearm woodwork , The chambers then have a cylindrical piece of metal inserted in both chambers and fully welded in a ring or along the slot already cut in the chamber , The breech face must then be weakened by milling a slot or machining a cone so that it cannot support the base of a cartridge together with removing or destroying the firing pins and their recesses . Then take to the proof house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 What does he do with it? I bet he stands in front of a full-length mirror, shouting "Do you know what Nemesis means?" when he thinks nobody is about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpF-oUvwruI...feature=related Class I do like this version also: Adam & Joe - Snatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 i once fired a sawn off shotgun down a testing tube at a RFD friends - i've never felt such a backblast, i looked like i'd just smoked an acme exploding cigar. agree with everyone else - he's asking for trouble even though it's legal to own it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I too have fired a sawn-off, good fun but painful!!! also had a go with a few other tools and later in the day the dragunov, ak's, and various other heavy weapons were brought out for us to play with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Tell him you will report him to the Police unless you see him personally destroy it. See if he is still your friend or acquaintance. If he doesn't destroy it - do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Tell him you will report him to the Police unless you see him personally destroy it. See if he is still your friend or acquaintance. If he doesn't destroy it - do it. That sounds like good advise to me. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) From the Proof House specifications for deactivation. (xxiii) Any substantial alteration to a de-activated firearm (eg. the shortening of shotgun barrels, or adaptation to allow the firing of blank cartridges or to operate as an air weapon) will render the de-activation certificate null and void. Although only a Court can provide a definitive ruling on the subsequent classification of the altered item, the automatic exemption from certificate control provided by Section 8 of the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 would no longer apply to the various component parts, unless the weapon is resubmitted to the proof house for re-certification. If anyone wants the full specifications send me a pm and I will email them to you, A 43 page pdf is a bit to big to post here Edited March 22, 2009 by Andy H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Deactivated or not, who in there right mind would want to posess such a frightening object, I would hate to look down the barrel of one, I agree with Gordon, destroy it or report him, there is no justification to own a sawn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 good point, but is it ilegal or not, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) we have a sawn off shotgun, pump action 8 shot on the farm in michigan usa.we use it for clays there good fun. Edited March 22, 2009 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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