stevethevanman Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Hi guys I was wondering where I can get these style targets in the U.K., as they look very nice for long range target shooting , that will withstand at least a 243....sorry should have added this THE TYPE OF TARGET IM AFTER Steve Edited April 22, 2009 by stevethevanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildgoose1uk Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hi guys I was wondering where I can get these style targets in the U.K., as they look very nice for long range target shooting , that will withstand at least a 243. Steve wot... you mean withstand as in bounce off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 wot... you mean withstand as in bounce off? looks to me like the bullet breaks up or welds itself to the target so???......at a almost true angle how will a bouce happen? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 go to a local steel engineering works and get them to cut them out for you.would need to be pretty heavy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) go to a local steel engineering works and get them to cut them out for you.would need to be pretty heavy though. I was thinking that maybe, but thought some might come ready made... xD Edited April 22, 2009 by stevethevanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Don`t know of anyone in the UK that sells them of the shelf, you best bet is to go to a steel fabricators and ask them to cut the required shape out of an off-cut of plate steel, Gas axe is the cheapest, Plasma is next then laser and lastly water jet. For what you need it for get them to gas axe it then grind the edges. Will take them about 20 minutes and cost you virtually nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Im told the bullets such as 300WM, dont go through these targets because they have a spring system which means they flop down the shoot up with spring power to absorb the shot otherwise it might punch through, or just develop huge craters. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Im told the bullets such as 300WM, dont go through these targets because they have a spring system which means they flop down the shoot up with spring power to absorb the shot otherwise it might punch through, or just develop huge craters. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Get them made out of boiler plate, trust me it will not dent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The shape and the size of the targets are the practical pistol targets which are a cargboard target . You would need one of these cardboard targets as a pattern and have an engineering company cut them out of steel for you ,not a big deal . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yeah doesant look bad, I wanted one becuase of the ping sound back, not only it sounds cool......but i dont have to go check I hit it Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I had a local welder make me up some steel gongs supported on an A-frame (one 15mm thick, one 22mm thick). They aren't hugely useful, and only have a finite life (one shot with the .375 H&H turned the fatter of the two plates into an expensive colander). The splash-back off steel plate with expanding ammunition is terrifying. I hasten to add that the steel gongs are used with safe back-stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Looks like a steel plate they have cut themselves of had cut. You could prob do the same or get hold of one, get hold of someone you know can cut it and buy a plate big enough. A good way to resuse it is aslong as there aren't loads of holes in it you can paint the plate. Once you've shot it there'll be loads of marks and bits of metal, scrape them off and just chuck another coat of paint on and its good to go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Yeah that was the idea...but I wont be shooting at it at less that 100yds so splash back isnt a worry. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) That target is a scaled down version of the old IPSC practical pistol (metric) target, IPSC no longer use it but its not a hard shape to copy, it will need to be thick & very hard steel or rifle rounds will go straight through at ranges under 300m. IPSC now use this target for pistol & shotgun matches, & the one below it for rifle. IPSC use this target for rifle. N Edited April 25, 2009 by neil smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Use a bunch of old china tea plates - Much more satisfying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsosureshot Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yeah that was the idea...but I wont be shooting at it at less that 100yds so splash back isnt a worry. Steve If I may just offer a word of advice. 100yds isnt particularly far for larger calibres, I'd exercise extreme caution. The energy from a round needs to go somewhere, and if its not behind the target, its elsewhere which will give significant splash back at that range in potentially any direction. The NRA have range consultants who might be able to answer this question for you. Have a word with them perhaps? You dont really want to find out the hard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I realise 100m is not very far for centerfire shooting in that respect, but it seems a nice way to do it...il start that way and then increase probably its just I have a huge field ranged at least 1000m long. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) I think some kind of spring mounting may help a little, but the speed of the bullet is likely to punch through anyway I'd have thought. You need some really thick and hard plate. Most big calibres will punch through an inch of soft steel at 100 yards. I'd say a really soft bullet would help too. Any kind of hunting bullet designed to stay together will only make a bigger dent in your plate. EDIT... If you angle it with the top towards you at about 20 degrees any ricochets will come back into the ground Edited April 26, 2009 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 EDIT... If you angle it with the top towards you at about 20 degrees any ricochets will come back into the ground Good suggestion, but if you build the target on a A-frame basis, the downward deflection can make mincemeat of the cross-brace. I modified mine to cut out the brace, leaving nothing to interrupt the deflected bullet's path down into the dirt. If you are planning to shoot the gongs with something punchy, make sure that the hinge mechanism is up to the job, or it will just shear off. V-Max and other expanding bullets give the problems with splash-back. FMJ and solids just bore a hole straight through. I keep a couple of cans of fluorescent line-marking paint in my Landy for quick refurbishment of the gongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Don`t know of anyone in the UK that sells them of the shelf, you best bet is to go to a steel fabricators and ask them to cut the required shape out of an off-cut of plate steel, Gas axe is the cheapest, Plasma is next then laser and lastly water jet. For what you need it for get them to gas axe it then grind the edges. Will take them about 20 minutes and cost you virtually nothing. Get them made out of boiler plate, trust me it will not dent. Don't buy anything, go to your local tip, there will be some plate lying around. I made mine out of 1/2" case hardened plate with a 3/4" plywood sandwiched behind. For your frame work used rolled angle, with square edges side on so the silouhette is lower and it will minimise battle damage. To be honest steel and rifle ammunition don't mix.....as we know always the risk of richochet is always there and too me a earth backstop could'nt be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperfox36 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 if you want some steel targets i could sort that out for you as im a welder fabricator and how much do you want too pay ? but a word of warning a work friend of mine shot a .243 at 15mil plate and they went through and the rounds were soft point pm me if your interested im only in bedford and can deliver them too you regards mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted April 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 if you want some steel targets i could sort that out for you as im a welder fabricator and how much do you want too pay ? but a word of warning a work friend of mine shot a .243 at 15mil plate and they went through and the rounds were soft point pm me if your interested im only in bedford and can deliver them too you regards mick Thanks m8 that sounds really good actually Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Steve, do a search on here, someone mafe some meatl plates a while back, it may even have been deadeye ive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 stuartp you been on the pith or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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