hurstpol Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) Well once again it has started, I was listening to the radio news at 08.00 this morning and heard that the government were thinking of giving the Scottish Parliament more of the tax revenue that they collect , the Scottish government is claiming they need more revenue to pursue their policies, one of which was mentioned in the bulletin was to ban all air weapons once and for all. Here we go again................................ Frank Edited June 15, 2009 by hurstpol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper6 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 :lol: :lol: not suprised at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I completely agree that Scotland should keep all of the tax it raises, and also stop expecting subsidies from the rest of the UK. (And can they take their useless politicians back with them at the same time!) Rhiannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcw65 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Ill agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 same with the Welsh Assembly, spend their own revenues rather than England subsidising them, if they want to be separate then so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigweed Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I completely agree that Scotland should keep all of the tax it raises, and also stop expecting subsidies from the rest of the UK. (And can they take their useless politicians back with them at the same time!) Rhiannon So it would keep all the benefits from North Sea oil then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 thats about the only argument the Scotts have, be interesting to see the figures and realistically the UK government only makes the tax the companies that are based here pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineshooter Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) I thought North Sea oil was drying up Scotland has had its fair share of idiots miss using airguns though, perhaps more incidents than here, controling them may be better than an outright ban, but how you do that I don`t know. Edited June 15, 2009 by lineshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) I completely agree that Scotland should keep all of the tax it raises, and also stop expecting subsidies from the rest of the UK. (And can they take their useless politicians back with them at the same time!) Rhiannon Exactly how i feel i think if they want independence they can ******* well have it, we will get a conservative England and, the vote on the introduction of student fees would never have passed had it not been for Scotland's labour MPs in West Minster who had already got rid of the fees in scotland it is a ******* joke. The only problem is who gets the tax from the north sea gas/oil of scotland then scotland may get the upper hand...but by the way i dont want to offend any scotts on the site George Edited June 15, 2009 by groach1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 well lets hope they cant, but give them time.they will keep on pecking at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wriggler Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well banning small arms (pistols) worked, I mean how often do we now hear of anyone getting shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 why not just licence them, same as here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 why not just licence them, same as here? That is the proposal - I think the OP misheard the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 That is the proposal - I think the OP misheard the article. oh ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave dog Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 What ever gun controls are they do not work, post Dundlain we have ever bigger gun problem. Huggerford didn't really but a bit to young to remeber the fall out of that one. Just politicions try to grab to votes would be the really reason for this. And nothing eles. Which ever country you live they are all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I think that gun control does work, you only have to look at the gun crime in this country. You do not read many story,s of some person being shot with a "sporting" rifle that is on ticket or the use of shot guns,that are on ticket What it does show though is the way that the government has tried in the past to "control" in there way, more to give public peace of mind in there own eyes, than to actually confront the issue in a way that it will do any good. that is by Banning all weapons they deem to be responsible for the crimes, even though they most probably were not the ones actually involved in the crime. They were told months if not years before the actuall banning of such weapons by i think BASC that it would do nothing to cut gun crime, in fact i think the advice was given that it would increase the use of illegally held hand weapons used in gun crime. There is a report some were on the internet that shows how gun crime was on the increase after the bann of hand guns, it goes to show how little the government actually listen to advice from people who know better than themselves. I would not dissagree if they decided to licence air rifles, without being ridiculously priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) I completly agree that scotland should be independant, as mentioned this would allow all North sea natural assets to be kept - which is basically the biggest money earner and export the UK has next to whiskey oh! that's scottish too..... (pharmasuiticals and communications are 2 of the other biggest i believe).... Then they might actually spend some of the UK incoming revenue on the place that earns most of it instead of resurfacing the southern roman built roads.... Edited June 16, 2009 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigwallet Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 i agree licence air weapons then they can also licence catapults,pea shooters and eventually throwing pebbles into the sea BUT FIRST BAN THOSE THIEVING LOWLIFE POLITICIANS WHO HAVE COMMITTED MASS FRAUD AND HAVE GOT AWAY WITH IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 i agree licence air weapons then they can also licence catapults,pea shooters and eventually throwing pebbles into the sea BUT FIRST BAN THOSE THIEVING LOWLIFE POLITICIANS WHO HAVE COMMITTED MASS FRAUD AND HAVE GOT AWAY WITH IT I TOTALLY AGREE-THIEVING SCOUNDRELS!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear All, This is not a new stance from Scotland - their emphasis is targeting illegal use of airguns. The Minister has gone public on saying he has nothing at all against owners of airguns for legitimate use. There is no outright ban in prospect. But Scotland are likely to look to change the law re airguns - BUT there will be consultation before any decision is made. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 same with the Welsh Assembly, spend their own revenues rather than England subsidising them, if they want to be separate then so be it does that mean we can have our water back?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy_stone Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 The problem is that no matter where we are in the world there will always be bad apples that ruin it for all us, not to mention stealing, fraud comiting, clueless polititions. Just look to the hand gun ban I mean that had a real life changing effect........ there are more illegal handguns on the streets than ever before. Sometimes I really doubt how much control, in a democratic state that we the people have any influnce what so ever. I mean sure we can vote but look what has happened there are more rules on firearms than you can shake a stick at yet how many of these offences were comited by liscenced firearms and shotgun cert holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 ban air guns and there will be more, unlicened out there then licened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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