Jim Sarakun Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 As the Hatsan Escort, which I shall refer to here as the Datsun, a term of endearment you may be familiar with, seems to take up so much forum space and appears to be a very popular gun amongst members on this site, I think it is now time that we, the Datsun owners, should have our own Forum on this site, titled The Hatsan Escort Owners Club. We could also incorporate in the membership, as guests of course, owners of other similar robust and reliable value for money guns available on the market such as Mossberg, Baikal, CZ and the like. How about "Hatsan Escort and Shotguns under £300", owners club. Probably too much of a mouthful that. Hatsan Escort Owners Club it is then. This would surely be a first for this site, as I have seen no mention of a Berreta or a Remington owners club yet, but I did hear that they don't talk to each other much as they are too busy working and saving for the next overpriced model that comes out. We could talk about the Caribbean holiday that was so much fun, that we had with the saving made after opting for the Datsun instead of the Silver Pigeon. Or the ease of cleaning this marvelously engineered delight, with as little as a wire brush dettol and a Tampax. It was only the other night that I was talking to a friend in the pub, another Datsun owner, who told me that he read somewhere, a big black book it was, that Datsun owners shall inherit the earth. Now this surely is good reason for debate. I shall have to find out what the book was called, as I am sure it would make good reading. I thought maybe a monthly newsletter would be a good idea, to have to hand in the written word, any maintenance tips, or where best to purchase spares, but decided against this as the Datsun is just so reliable and well built, a newsletter would be a waste of resources and full of empty pages. Maybe those who know, can sort out a Hatsan Owners Club enamel pin to wear, a skeet vest with Hatsan Owners Club embroidered on the back, to wear at the local, hell local, NATIONAL why don't we, clay shoots. A rain coat too, because we can use the Datsun in all weather and it just soldiers on. I can see the envy amongst other gun owners now. I have also asked my 11 year old if he would like to be Chief Assembler, so any new members, who just purchased a Datsun can have it assembled correctly, so the chokes don't blow out and the screws don't come loose. My how he jumped at the opportunity, my 2 year old is thinking about it, but says he would get bored as it is too easy. So how about it then all you Datsun and budget gun owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think that you will find that the chief assembler at the factory is an eleven year old . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think that you will find that the chief assembler at the factory is an eleven year old .Harnser . .....And quality control is by a 2 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Typical retorts to be expected from non owners of this masterpiece in engineering. Very funny though and 10 out of ten for giving me a good laugh. I look forward to similar misguided comments from other non owner members who are missing out on the best gun manufactured in this century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 This would surely be a first for this site, as I have seen no mention of a Berreta or a Remington owners club yet, but I did hear that they don't talk to each other much as they are too busy working and saving for the next overpriced model that comes out. No, we are too busy using our Berettas and Remingtons, rather than having our shooting time eroded by mechanical failures, bulged barrels, poorly-machined chokes etc. I imagine a monthly magazine for Datsun owners would go down a treat - particularly its jam-packed 'For Sale' column. You could have a 101 Uses For My Knackered Datsun section, offering insight into the Datson's role as a substitute fence post, sea anchor, cricket bat, tyre iron and so on. I think we should form a 'You Get What You Pay For' club, where the Blaser/Browning/Perazzi-owning master race can bask in the glow of their own smugness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 you can't compare them to CZ's a truely good budget gun, they work and don't blow up on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I own a nice browning that cost well over a grand and now I'm getting an escort. Escorts are for those who want a knock around gun for pigeons and the like. Even if breaks it has a 3 year warrenty. I handled a load of semi autos on monday - new escorts and second hand berettas ect but untill we get into the extrema 2's and above I thought the escort handled the best....well worth the £390 in my opinion. Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I own a nice browning that cost well over a grand and now I'm getting an escort.Escorts are for those who want a knock around gun for pigeons and the like. Even if breaks it has a 3 year warrenty. I handled a load of semi autos on monday - new escorts and second hand berettas ect but untill we get into the extrema 2's and above I thought the escort handled the best....well worth the £390 in my opinion. Toby I bought my Extrema for that reason, I wanted a knockabout indestructible gun that would WORK when I needed it. A three year warranty isn't any good to you if the gun fails through fair wear and tear. The beretta comes with a ten year unconditional warranty. In 6 years of marsh enviroment I haven't needed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Heh all you ever hear is the 3 year warranty I fail to see why Datsun owners dont just buy a pump action shotgun for the same kind of price, it would be infinately more reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I own a nice browning that cost well over a grand and now I'm getting an escort.Escorts are for those who want a knock around gun for pigeons and the like. Even if breaks it has a 3 year warrenty. Same here, well a slightly cheaper Browning but still i didn't want to take into the field because i don't want to ding it. While the browning is a tool to be used like any gun (i used it for clays, 80% of my shooting) i'd rather minimise the chances on something that cost's me a lot of money. I got an Escort pump, good fun plus it's a great pigeon and rough gun with warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 No, we are too busy using our Berettas and Remingtons, rather than having our shooting time eroded by mechanical failures, bulged barrels, poorly-machined chokes etc. I imagine a monthly magazine for Datsun owners would go down a treat - particularly its jam-packed 'For Sale' column. You could have a 101 Uses For My Knackered Datsun section, offering insight into the Datson's role as a substitute fence post, sea anchor, cricket bat, tyre iron and so on. I think we should form a 'You Get What You Pay For' club, where the Blaser/Browning/Perazzi-owning master race can bask in the glow of their own smugness. Clearly posted by someone who has never used or owned a Datsun. Ill informed rhetoric gleaned from this site and twisted to suit, obviously no first hand knowledge of the Turkish master gunsmith, thus, I'm sorry, I can not and hope no one else takes this post seriously. It's obvious to me Baldric that you have one BIG chip on your shoulder. I just had De Ja Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I've been told the only thing with an escort is that you just need to keep it as clean as possible and It should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Clearly posted by someone who has never used or owned a Datsun. Ill informed rhetoric gleaned from this site and twisted to suit, obviously no first hand knowledge of the Turkish master gunsmith, thus, I'm sorry, I can not and hope no one else takes this post seriously. It's obvious to me Baldric that you have one BIG chip on your shoulder. I just had De Ja Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 on this choke issue I don't know any other make of gun where if the choke comes loose that it bulges the barrel. Be interested if anyone has had it happen as lets face it its not that rare an occurence with some guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I own a nice browning that cost well over a grand and now I'm getting an escort.Escorts are for those who want a knock around gun for pigeons and the like. Even if breaks it has a 3 year warrenty. I handled a load of semi autos on monday - new escorts and second hand berettas ect but untill we get into the extrema 2's and above I thought the escort handled the best....well worth the £390 in my opinion. Toby Toby Toby Toby. Knock around gun? Well yes, it will take all the abuse you can give it, but don't be afraid to use it. I have put 6000 cartridges through mine with no problem, well just a stuck choke, but my fault for only cleaning it annually. I have cleaned it once since I have owned it. Stupid I know, but it just seems to keep working without excessive cleaning and I would rather be out shooting than in cleaning. £390...?... £295 for the black one and £350 for the cammo one at my local dealer. Shop around some before you commit. £40 to £90's worth of gear or cartridges seems a better way to spend the saving to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) I purchased and escort because I did not want to drag my great grandfathers gun through a hedge, reason why I didnt buy a pump firstly I didnt know hatsan made a pump and secondly there wasnt one in the shop when I bought the escort. and yes you could say I could of got a £1500 gun to do the same thing, and yes I could have past it on to my children (god forbid) but I didnt I save my self 1200 quid and bought a 1000 cartouche and some new decoys and I am still glad of saving 950 pound (theoreticly as I never had 1200 quid if you follow). Which is there to pay for the reproof of my G-Grandfathers gun I have put well over 4000 cartridges though it in the year that I have had it and my choke doesnt come loose because I check it every time I take the gun out of the cabinate, It doesnt jam because I clean it regulary and I use a cartidge that it likes and it may ot be the best quality, but it does the job Oh and I do aspire to own a SX3 Walnut Edited August 19, 2009 by EdwardtheloneShooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Clearly posted by someone who has never used or owned a Datsun. Ill informed rhetoric gleaned from this site and twisted to suit, obviously no first hand knowledge of the Turkish master gunsmith, thus, I'm sorry, I can not and hope no one else takes this post seriously. It's obvious to me Baldric that you have one BIG chip on your shoulder. I just had De Ja Vue. I think you mean déja vu, Jim, and I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I was earlier going to make a comment about inverse snobbery amongst Datsun owners, but thought better of it. Despite your robust defence of the Datsun, I sense that you aspire to own a Beretta. Unfortunately I do have some experience of the Turkish master gunsmith's engineering. I have used three separate examples of the Escort. All of them were shambolic. I even (I hope MC does not think less of me for this confession) considered buying one when I needed a semi-auto for keeping in the truck. Fortunately, good sense got the better of me, and I bought a shotgun that is the polar opposite of the Datsun in terms of quality and sound provenance: the mighty Benelli M2. Three times more money me bought thirty times more quality. And weirdly enough, the Benelli's chokes never required tightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Clearly posted by someone who has never used or owned a Datsun. Ill informed rhetoric gleaned from this site and twisted to suit, obviously no first hand knowledge of the Turkish master gunsmith, thus, I'm sorry, I can not and hope no one else takes this post seriously. It's obvious to me Baldric that you have one BIG chip on your shoulder. I just had De Ja Vue. So ,made in turkey aye , now that explains a lot . Sounds as if the chokes are made from turkish delight . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Clearly posted by someone who has never used or owned a Datsun. Ill informed rhetoric gleaned from this site and twisted to suit, obviously no first hand knowledge of the Turkish master gunsmith, thus, I'm sorry, I can not and hope no one else takes this post seriously. It's obvious to me Baldric that you have one BIG chip on your shoulder. I just had De Ja Vue. So ,made in turkey aye , now that explains a lot . Sounds as if the chokes are made from turkish delight and the barrels from a kebab . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) the choke on mine has never come loose, so don't know why every one's banging on about them doing so, if someone hasn't tightened it up, then who's to blame? not the guns fault is it? Edited August 19, 2009 by EvoCars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I shot my first pigeon with my datsun today. I only stopped using it because the empties kept landing in the nettles. can we have our own section on the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) I think Jims post ,Hatson escort owners club ,should be read again by some members . The post is very tongue in cheek and should not be taken to seriously . Tongue in cheek posts are wide open for banter ,thats what we call british humour , sometimes not understood outside these shores . Any how ,who would buy a hatson escort and then let other people know they had one by joining a club . Harnser . Edited August 19, 2009 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveB916 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Well having saved £1200 over a 'proper gun' we can afford the new membership fees........ Dave B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Heh all you ever hear is the 3 year warranty I fail to see why Datsun owners dont just buy a pump action shotgun for the same kind of price, it would be infinately more reliable MOSSBERGS RULE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 No, we are too busy using our Berettas and Remingtons, rather than having our shooting time eroded by mechanical failures, bulged barrels, poorly-machined chokes etc. I imagine a monthly magazine for Datsun owners would go down a treat - particularly its jam-packed 'For Sale' column. You could have a 101 Uses For My Knackered Datsun section, offering insight into the Datson's role as a substitute fence post, sea anchor, cricket bat, tyre iron and so on. I think we should form a 'You Get What You Pay For' club, where the Blaser/Browning/Perazzi-owning master race can bask in the glow of their own smugness. i think another great column to compliment the for sale section would be a 'reason for sale - creative writing section '; you know, such as 'never missed a beat, only selling as i prefer an o/u, or .. i shoot in long grass and dont want to look for cartridges, or.. it doesnt match the curtains in the living room... ( all usually start with ... only 3/4/5 weeks old!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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