Alanl50 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 IMO there are two questions, the first is should you shoot a pheasant with a .22 rifle and I think that would generally be considered "unsporting". The second is, can you shoot pheasants that have been bred on neighbouring land and strayed onto land you have permission to shoot on. If you have permission from the landowner, yes you can. "I think you should ask your Farmer quite very clearly, if you have permission to shoot the pheasants. A throwaway comment like, "you can shoot anything" is not good enough. Farmers have to get on with their neighbours and are usually not keen to start unnecessary conflicts. Don't find yourself "piggy in the middle" in a dispute, because you will be the one who loses out." In a nutshell I always filled in my FAC .22LR(when I had one) application with :FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF GROUND GAME AND VERMIN One for the pot wont hurt and deads dead, rifle or shotgun. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 And which part of ground game or vermin do Pheasants come into? Ground game are hares and rabbits, not game on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerzone Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 If it's an airgun, it's an absolute no no. You'll struggle to cleanly kill it. Let me get this strait.....you think a .22 will struggle to penatrate a pheasent's skull and produce a cleen kill??? Must be armour plated birds round your neck of the woods..... More like, you are a snob (wanabe type) and think pheasents have some divine right to be driven If it's one for the pot, ask your farmer, "......can I shoot one for the pot?" IF he says "Yes" then, clunk one in the nut, be discreet and keep your mouth shut.......and ask the farmer if he wants one for himself(oven ready) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 at the airgun and pheasants argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I seriously would not EVER shoot a pheasant if I was not on a driven shoot day. What about a walked up rough shoot. If you have permission i would take a bird or two for the pot, 22 rimfire we obviously do the job. Think about getting a shotgun and walking the hedgerows with the farmers son. How does the keeper know if the birds are his, they could have been raised on your shoot by wild birds. Do you think the keeper would be upset if birds from another shoot ended up on his game kart at the end of the day NO he would not give a monkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 walked up days are great for shooting pheasants and just as much fun as driven days however they are very different to waiting for them to stop so you can erradicate them like vermin with a rifle you don't have the correct conditions to use on them. A waste of a sporting bird, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerzone Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 " at the airgun and pheasants argument" There is no argument!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerzone Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 A waste of a sporting bird, There's no "waste" in killing the odd one for the pot, to kill it and not eat it would be a waste!!! p.s. I have seen plenty pheasents that were anything but sporting birds.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 A waste of a sporting bird, id rather see someone kill a pheasant cleanly and humanely for the pot than some of those "sporting" shots which ive seen and everyone is so fond of talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 ive shot a few with the rifles, and always for the pot. as much as i agree with the idea that its not sporting., my stomach says different. The birds i take must fly in from some distance, as i dont know of any close shoots. Just make sure you take it for the right reasons when doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 its not legal with a airgun is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) its not legal with a airgun is it? No, it's not illegal. Edited September 22, 2009 by CharlieT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrys Bird Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 id rather see someone kill a pheasant cleanly and humanely for the pot than some of those "sporting" shots which ive seen and everyone is so fond of talking about have to agree have seen ouite a few pheasants shot with a shotgun and still able to fly on to probably suffer a slow death, don.t think to many would fly on after being shot with a .22 rimfire, although i am sure some one will come on to say different thanks for all your opinions etc but if the opportunity arises i will take 1 or 2 pheasants for the pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Fill your boots was gonna be my shout ...and remember you can't shoot them 1 hr after dark,(59 minutes being ok of course ). Joking aside; what actual conditions would pheasants come under on your firearms cert. that would enable you to shoot them with a .22 rimfire ect, (an example and actual wording would be good). ATB CZ452 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Fill your boots was gonna be my shout ...and remember you can't shoot them 1 hr after dark,(59 minutes being ok of course ). Joking aside; what actual conditions would pheasants come under on your firearms cert. that would enable you to shoot them with a .22 rimfire ect, (an example and actual wording would be good). ATB CZ452 Game birds perhaps or "other legal quarry". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldous Huxley Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 More like, you are a snob (wanabe type) and think pheasents have some divine right to be driven Sounds like someone should learn some manners. Maybe you have a chip on your shoulder about your self-perceived 'class status'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Id say its a NO NO. Also by the sounds of the gamekeeper I wouldnt, just picture shooting a pheasant with a .22... wounding it which then is picked up by the keeper.... From being a keeper myself I know for a fact that every dead pheasant found laying about gets a post mortem. You do the math. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Id say its a NO NO. Also by the sounds of the gamekeeper I wouldnt, just picture shooting a pheasant with a .22... wounding it which then is picked up by the keeper.... From being a keeper myself I know for a fact that every dead pheasant found laying about gets a post mortem. You do the math. Alex a well placed .22lr shot will drop one far better than a shotgun will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrys Bird Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 a well placed .22lr shot will drop one far better than a shotgun will have to agree with you on that 1 babby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 a well placed .22lr shot will drop one far better than a shotgun will Not at four yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Not at four yards true then again at 4 yards with a 22lr youll still be able to eat the pheasant. having once shot a pheasant at about 4 yards with a shotgun i can assure you the old joke about "why pluck it when its already been minced" is 100% accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Id say its a NO NO. Also by the sounds of the gamekeeper I wouldnt, just picture shooting a pheasant with a .22... wounding it which then is picked up by the keeper.... From being a keeper myself I know for a fact that every dead pheasant found laying about gets a post mortem. You do the math. Alex Funny thing is though most keepers i no after the season is all but over say shoot the sod's as they are the pricked birds or one's that will not fly And they don't want them around next year as they pull the young birds away The lads after one for the pot on land he has permission on where is the harm in that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Game birds perhaps or "other legal quarry". Didnt know you could put game birds on your firearms cert. Would they possibly come under wildlife or something as a standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerzone Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Sounds like someone should learn some manners. Maybe you have a chip on your shoulder about your self-perceived 'class status'? Manners are reserved for those who are due them, that excludes you Huxley. As for chip's on shoulders and class, well, I have no chip and you have no class........dose that make us even? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbies2 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hm, i use a SB 12G, SB .410 and a .22 air rifle for different purposes, however on my permissions there are various quarry, and the surrounding land is owned by 1 person but has several tenant farmers. whilst all the farmers see eye to eye most of the time they like any competing businesses have their clashes. I gained my permissions through a contact who introduced me to the land, then the farmers etc, etc. After 18 months i have direct permissions, however i asked specific questions of each permission giver as to what i could & couldnt shoot. Generally i can shoot whatever LEGAL game appears in front of me at the time of the shoot, for this i offered them free labour or driving etc as well as free services from my own trade. This seems to keep all happy & i never rock the boat or take sides with the neighbouring farmers. We also keep a watch over the land for fly tipping, fires, unauthorised users etc for the various farmers. We have good permissions & in return we try to give a good return etc, seems to keep all happy, i never lose sight of the fact that it only takes 1 muck up to lose a permission either. All areas & permissions are different with different landowners, tenants, keepers and so on, i suppose its a variable for us all. Best of luck Robbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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