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I have seen dogs sent out in considerable rough seas.No consideration given to the dog.Its all about the shooters own ego.The dog appears to be just an accessory to their wardrobe an item" ."property" if you will.It takes all sorts as they say,just unfortunate these types do'nt try to swim out themselves in bad weather n order to get it into thick skulls that their dog is not a ****** submarine.

You mean it was reproofed at the proof house for steel AFTER being Teague choked i assume?

i loaded as per lead with Nobel 82 powder.By "lead" i mean by volume not by weight. I found 2oz of bismuth came up to the top of the wad and worked just peachy instead of 2 1/4 oz lead.It dropped geese with the Bismuth #3 at 45 yards from my single stevens 10.Your 2 7/8 gun obviously less shot /powder but principal is the same .Bismuth is only a piddly bit lighter than lead so lead loads will have a good grounding for any bismuth you load in its stead.You will at some point have to say hello to yer baws and simply go for it and load as per lead but a tad lighter , as i did ,as there is little if any data on 2 7/8 10 bore non toxic loads i have seen.heres some eley 10 bore 2 7/8 data. should start you off.

Fishing for info on who uses what and how they rate their choices for best patterns with cylinder bore.I refer to lead shot mainly but whatever you use .

Ahh the word play begins.Being a mature middle aged devil may care son of the space corps sort of guy all i can say jdog is --smoke me a kipper,ill be back for breakfast

Personally i always feel very gratified getting my hands on a drake.Dunno bout getting my hands on t'other🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dun have to worry these days.Many in the Zulu nation are sadly either alcoholic or drug dependant.They'd probably see three of you.

Gary i was expecting you round the other night m8.Give me a bell ref the hevishot pls.

Despite needing the dosh i've decided to keep thIs gun.No longer for sale

provisionally sold

Aye it sold very quickly.Very well made

SOLD

We used it once Comes with carpet and air pump.Lovely tent in excellent condition.Photo is stock image .We have camping table equipment etc used once also for sale ..Too old for this camping caper.The polycotton tents live up to their reputation i will say that.Very sturdy .Far better quality that the thin rubbish.£500.Photo is stock image so please use your imagination to imagine what ours looks like and you wont go far wrong!!!!!

In very good condition.Used once by prev owner to relocate to the UK from France.Sat here for a year ,used two times for camping and a few skip trips.Note--this is a tipping trailer so very very useful.Excellent tyres,wheels .I used the pic from when we bought it coz it pischin it doon outside just now.This is a solid trailer with proper roadwheels not a Halfordfs bodge job.$450 ONO.

reduced £150

Reduced for quick sale £300

still for sale

still for sale

half 8 at night???? No idea what he was shooting at lads a fud -period.Could have been anything he let got at--or anyone for that matter!

I was offered a stock from an aya 10 last year as i needed one at the time.The barrels had been (allegedly)bulged by the owner using--------- large steel.Who knows bud its one of those areas where i agree misinformation leads to misdirection.

Utter **** wit 50 grains .too low a volume.seems for whatever the reasoning ,better patterns can be achieved with TSS and a percussion gun when you raise the powder charge.70 grains perhaps even 75.I patterned 11/4 oz at 45 yards and its a dead goose .Bout what you would expect from a lead round using full choked .Now that aint 70 yards--but then again this aint TSS 18 its TSS 15.I dont normally shoot at geese beyond 40-45 yards with my 3.5 s/s gun so i dun want to start doing it with a percussion black powder job really either.Im content i have a black powder gun that will drop birds humanely at normal ranges.Jobs a good un. single overshot wad on top of the 70 grians of 777 powder, one ounce of TSS in a fibre cup with 20g thick spacer placed in the cup after the wad is seated in the bore otherwise it wont twist in .Overshot card wad on top of shotcolumn.Done. Closer birds can be taken with bismuth or steel .Cylinder choke on my percussion both barrels ,i would not be happy throwing steel out at geese beyond 30-35 yards

Dram (powder) Grains (powder) Ounce (shot) 2 55 3/4 2 1/4 62 7/8 2 1/2 68 1 2 3/4 75 1 1/8 3 82 1 1/4 3 1/4 89 1 3/8 3 1/2 96 1 1/2 3 3/4 102 1 5/8 4 109 1 3/4 4 1/4 116 1 7/8 4 1/2 123 2 4 3/4 130 2 1/8 5 137 2 1/4 This chart is typical. Im using 70 grains on this most successful pattern test.i put that down to the whole unmolested wad being used.not the increase in powder.,the lowest i went was 60 of 777.If im replicating the square load id be using the one ounce load-- just 68 grains of black OR 68 times 0.85% to get the equivalent in 777 powder--thats just 57.8 grains!.Less powder more shot is the statement to tighten things up . im above the square load with both 60 and certainly 70 grains of 777 , im very optimistic i can tighten things up by dropping it back from 70 or 60 to say---50 grains as mentioned a moment ago.This is 8 grains less than the square load conversion from black to 777 but with TSS its a new ball game and the higher density of the shot may simply need a gentler "push" rather than a heavy shove so to speak.I agree the extra height of the complete fibre wad is helping.the reduction in powder can do nothing but good.velocity is incredible to be honest with 60 or 70 grains.Its not overload, but it is, my experience tells me,--too pokey.It reminds me of firing a baikal record 12 bore cartridge if you remember them??Thats what its like firing off 60 or 70 grains.50 should make the gun behave more like firing a grand prix i hope!!!!

To let you understand 777 powder as i have came to over the last few weeks.Its written to drop the standard BP charge by 15% to allow 777 to replicate velocities normally expected from BP load.A normal 1oz BP load is around 70 grains.using the 15% reduction idea is optional with 777.they advise you to do this IF you want to replicate a BP load in pressure /velocity--but with TSS you may not want to do this --unless as you suggest the pattern is being blown..I have tried 60 grains at 50 yards and its ok but not impressive as we know.I tried the 70 grains with the full wad and its pretty damned good--but i agree with you ,not what it could be.I may try dropping the charge back down to say 50 grains 777 with the full wad and the 1oz.It would still have plenty poke most likely and maybe bring the shot tighter together.who knows! Ill try one more trip out using less powder,fold the petals right out and then back into place so i know they will "give" when fired.and see what i get on the pattern paper.

Ach im being fussy m8.Lets be honest, a 50 yard range is outstanding from a cylinder choked percussion 12.Pellets will go clean through the bird i can be sure of that.hellova wallop they have to them.I normally shoot at 30-45 yards anyways.Im confident ill have a good few pinks this season with the pedersoli.ill keep a look out for the 10 bore percussion version too,would love to grab hold of one of them

perhaps aye. more pellets in the ounce too.This was today pattern tested with the full fibre cup wad with 1oz of tss15 .still 80 or so pellets outside that paper someplace.Not as tight as i had hoped but certainly a dead goose.