kdubya Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 seems that a 6ft 3" copper with his tags removed (wonder why ) can be easily frightened by the said orange juice carton, just as well he gave a small woman a backhander followed by a couple of whacks with a truncheon, nice to know we are safe in the hands of thugs like smellie.and the ***** that felt his thuggery was reasonable ., yet another step down the road into a police state me thinks? he also felt isolated and threatened even with another copper feet from him, oh well another one gets away with it. KW http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/61285,people...in-self-defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Link?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 She was in his face yelling abuse and she got a few wacks round the legs for it, probably a bit over the top but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Kudubya you'd have been fine in that situation as you would have done as asked and not kept shouting at him and trying to get in his face, she was acting in a deranged way. Personally I too would be worried about a cup like that as at best it could be urine at worst acid. They were there to cause trouble not protest peacefully so I've no problems with his actions and wouldn't ever get in that situation as I tend to do what I'm told by the police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 So why am I not allowed to carry out a 'pre emptive strike' if a burgalar breaks into my house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Hit first,and then again and again,never give in,never stop,thats what i have learnt from 30 yrs martial arts,get in my face there gonna be no hesitation and as much as i dont agree with sgt smellie getting away with it because he was well hyped up and over the top,but would you or i have done any different,i wouldnt have waited to see what she had in her cup or what she gonna do next,that would have been my decision not hers,dont confront a 6' riot cop with his batton out if you dont want to play,simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaseone Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 it was a carton not a cup,and sealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Militia Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Stopping the threat of getting hit with a carton seems ridiculous, you can see it's an orange carton and don't need to react in such an over the top way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 So why am I not allowed to carry out a 'pre emptive strike' if a burgalar breaks into my house? I think you are allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 In fairness to the copper, he didn't know what was in the carton. I understand that the usual "swap" for orange juice is urine or bleach. If I were he I would have expected the worst and given her a dig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 There is a right to peaceful protest and this tree-hugging hippy was failing to exercising that right. She got what she deserved, just a shame he knock her into a puddle so she could have more than 1 bath a year Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 She's an animal rights "activist". He should have chinned the biatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chally2 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 The hippies were there to cause trouble **** them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppythedog Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 How come the foul mouthed grunge monster overnight (and while selling her story to the press) had a bath, brushed her hair & put on a flowery dress just in time for the BBC camera crew to arrive to film her bruises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper063 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 until you have been in this situation a poke or two helps try being in front of a angry mob and see how you would react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chally2 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 until you have been in this situation a poke or two helps try being in front of a angry mob and see how you would react. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 She should have been at home cooking her husbands tea or ironing his shirts . Sorry no sympathy from me . These scumbags have caused alsorts of violence over the years and there are several in prison at the moment for serious violent assauts on people . They all need a touch of the baton . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 She should have been at home cooking her husbands tea or ironing his shirts . Sorry no sympathy from me . These scumbags have caused alsorts of violence over the years and there are several in prison at the moment for serious violent assauts on people . They all need a touch of the baton .Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Lovley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 You stand in a group that is up for it then you pay the consequences - I have no sympathy for the soapies of this world and I hope the cop walks away - all the bird is interested in is a pay out - ******* hippy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 no sympathy from me,if you put yourself in those situations you deserve all that you get. was the copper heavy handed? maybe would i have done the same in that situation? maybe unless your there it's hard to judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Sergeant Delroy Smellie was captured by one of the major TV news channels on a succession of CCTV cameras going from place to place just looking for [and getting involved] in a number of fights . He had also removed his identification tags and rank badges from his shoulder epaulettes [which I understand is totally contrary to police procedures]. Yes, just one incident is understandable and yes it is possible that an orange juice carton could contain unpleasant substances other than juice but this man is no more than an out of control thug , who is a disgrace to the Metropolitan Police Service. Sadly, there is a very small minority of police officers who think that wearing a police uniform is reason enough to beat people up - remember the anti hunting bill demonstration in Parliament Square. There are a few rotten apples from ex Commander Ali Dizaei [now in jail] downwards who think that they are above the law and Sergeant Smellie is in the same category. It saddens me greatly that he was acquitted; we dont know why Nicola Fisher did not testify in Court - maybe she was scared and having seen images of Delroy Smellie both in action and at Court, I cannot blame her. I do still respect and admire the police service,would be the first to defend them, and have many friends who are serving or retired police officers but incidents like this, where justice has not been done will do the police no favours at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danddo Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 She got what she deserved, only there to cause trouble, any decent person on seeing trouble starting would make moves to get away from the trouble-spot. If you want to get face to face with the Police in that way accept the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 It must have been pretty difficult growing up with a name like Smellie - maybe it was an outburst of frustration after years of name calling and bullying - he needs counselling and therapy, not further humiliation and bullying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 She got what she deserved, only there to cause trouble, any decent person on seeing trouble starting would make moves to get away from the trouble-spot. If you want to get face to face with the Police in that way accept the consequences. And you apply that to all the people from Countryside Alliance, BASC, NGO and the Hunting Organisations who got beaten up in Parliament Square by the Police when protesting against Labour's Hunting Bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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