Dekers Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Fair do's. ATB!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 i am not a rifle shooter and have only seen a couple of deer shot at close(ish) ranges with 243 and a few rabbits and hares with a 22 from less then 60yrds just out of interest...what sort of damage would a gun of that calibre (with the bullet you were using) do to a hare at this range?? pictures of the big bunny in question please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I have the exact same rifle in 243.. Cow poop if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 You would have to have a very large backstop if something went wrong........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 i am not a rifle shooter and have only seen a couple of deer shot at close(ish) ranges with 243 and a few rabbits and hares with a 22 from less then 60yrds just out of interest...what sort of damage would a gun of that calibre (with the bullet you were using) do to a hare at this range?? pictures of the big bunny in question please! This is always a problem, it could possibly destroy it, or potentially pass clean through with a neat hole! Two seemingly identical shots can produce dramatically different results. A picture would be interesting, and apparently the OP has the said Hare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 My first thought was is he a suitable person to posses a rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'm sorry but I certainly do not agree in shooting a Hare with any CF rifle!What's the point in that!!700 yards-yeah right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 His next post will be offering newbies £50 taster lessons on shooting at 700yds+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 personally i'd use my 22 lr at a much closer range, and be happy in the fact that i could eat it afterwards. That sort of range should be left to the target boys and police snipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I first spotted the hare at 500yds but the wind was a 3 oclock crosswind at that point and I didn't like the idea of judging an unpredictable crosswind so I moved to a neighbouring farm and took the shot from 700yds with the wind blowing full in my face. And it was still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 So obviously a load of bull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 personally i'd use my 22 lr at a much closer range, and be happy in the fact that i could eat it afterwards. That sort of range should be left to the target boys and police snipers. Me too (like the avatar Buster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineshooter Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 should this be with the secret undergound bunker post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax55 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I am not making any value judgement on the OP, and for all I know it may be ******** but there are too many that judge from their own viewpoint/ability. Who has not tried to push the boundry a bit (or a lot)? i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 This is always a problem, it could possibly destroy it, or potentially pass clean through with a neat hole! Two seemingly identical shots can produce dramatically different results. A picture would be interesting, and apparently the OP has the said Hare! sorry i have to ask another question off the subject... this may seem a stupid question to some but due to my lack of knowledge on rifle shooting (and wanting to learn abit more about rifle shooting)... how could it possibly destroy it OR pass clean through it?? i thought at a certain range with a certain calibre and bullet... it would be a sure thing of 1 or the other? (hope that makes sense!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 sorry i have to ask another question off the subject... this may seem a stupid question to some but due to my lack of knowledge on rifle shooting (and wanting to learn abit more about rifle shooting)... how could it possibly destroy it OR pass clean through it?? i thought at a certain range with a certain calibre and bullet... it would be a sure thing of 1 or the other? (hope that makes sense!) Not always the case, a balistic tip needs a certain amount of velocity to cause expansion, also other factors are if the bullet strikes bone or just soft tissue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) Not always the case, a balistic tip needs a certain amount of velocity to cause expansion, also other factors are if the bullet strikes bone or just soft tissue. I didnt know that makes sense to me now...my limited knowledge grows everyday 1 day i will know enough to take the lunge into rifle shooting (wage rise would help too ) Thanks Edited October 23, 2010 by TJ91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) sorry i have to ask another question off the subject... this may seem a stupid question to some but due to my lack of knowledge on rifle shooting (and wanting to learn abit more about rifle shooting)... how could it possibly destroy it OR pass clean through it?? i thought at a certain range with a certain calibre and bullet... it would be a sure thing of 1 or the other? (hope that makes sense!) If the round hits just flesh,there is a good chance the round will stay intact and pass through causing minimal damage. But if the round clips bone then the likely hood is the round will fragment,and cause a huge amount of damage. A .243 round fragmenting into a rabbit can literally tear it in half. To slow Edited October 23, 2010 by welsh1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I never like contentious posts but this one is different. Whether the shot was as described or not, surely is not the point. A superb shot like that at a target on a range would be worthy of great praise. A shot, close to half a mile across open country at an animal that is easily shot with a shotgun at close range is not the way, IMHO, to retain and enhance respect for our sport. ( This is a public website) I doubt many here would attempt that shot, ability aside, as there are far too many inherent and unnecessary risks. Others have said it, but a princpal amongst those risks is that of wounding. Peter Scott gave up shooting becase he wounded a goose and it lived very visibly for 12 hours with a broken wing and 2 broken legs. I hope I never have to live with that - I'd give up too. I for one dont like 'macho' shooting and believe it has no place in our collective spot, sorry but I'll gadly go somewhere else if its condoned here. Dont we have any 'Values' on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I first spotted the hare at 500yds but the wind was a 3 oclock crosswind at that point and I didn't like the idea of judging an unpredictable crosswind so I moved to a neighbouring farm and took the shot from 700yds with the wind blowing full in my face. And it was still there? It was nailed to a plank of wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernchris Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Its a perfectly do-able shot BUT i would not have choosen a hare as the target, JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 If it was a 55 grainer, it'll have about 300ft/lbs of energy at 700 yards. That's more energy than a .17HMR at 0 yards I can't imagine there'll be much left to eat on the hare... If I ever want to test the abilities of a rifle, I put a nice big lump of flint in a safe place and shoot it. I actually enjoy seeing them vaporise, which is much better than chancing it with a live target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I never like contentious posts but this one is different. Whether the shot was as described or not, surely is not the point. A superb shot like that at a target on a range would be worthy of great praise. A shot, close to half a mile across open country at an animal that is easily shot with a shotgun at close range is not the way, IMHO, to retain and enhance respect for our sport. ( This is a public website) I doubt many here would attempt that shot, ability aside, as there are far too many inherent and unnecessary risks. Others have said it, but a princpal amongst those risks is that of wounding. Peter Scott gave up shooting becase he wounded a goose and it lived very visibly for 12 hours with a broken wing and 2 broken legs. I hope I never have to live with that - I'd give up too. I for one dont like 'macho' shooting and believe it has no place in our collective spot, sorry but I'll gadly go somewhere else if its condoned here. Dont we have any 'Values' on this site. just about sums this thread up, also in a much more eloquent manner than i could possibly hope to achieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I never like contentious posts but this one is different. Whether the shot was as described or not, surely is not the point. A superb shot like that at a target on a range would be worthy of great praise. A shot, close to half a mile across open country at an animal that is easily shot with a shotgun at close range is not the way, IMHO, to retain and enhance respect for our sport. ( This is a public website) I doubt many here would attempt that shot, ability aside, as there are far too many inherent and unnecessary risks. Others have said it, but a princpal amongst those risks is that of wounding. Peter Scott gave up shooting becase he wounded a goose and it lived very visibly for 12 hours with a broken wing and 2 broken legs. I hope I never have to live with that - I'd give up too. I for one dont like 'macho' shooting and believe it has no place in our collective spot, sorry but I'll gadly go somewhere else if its condoned here. Dont we have any 'Values' on this site. Well said that man. I've read this thread a couple of times and frankly it sickens me for several reasons, most of which are previously stated above. Presumably the .243 was obtained on the pretext of deer shooting? So why is the OP out shooting Hares with a round which would render the quary virtually useless. If you want to practice long range shots go to a range; punch some paper, that's what they are for. The object of shooting live quary is to kill cleanly with the first shot. It sickens me that someone is loose with a .243 effectivly taking virtual pot shots at anything with a pulse at any range up to or possibly including the world record for the calibre. Well done that man, but for all the wrong reasons. webber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) This is interesting. "I set up my mat and sandbags and got the Nightforce reticule on target, checked the range once again and took the shot." Hmmmmmmm Why would they be taken on a hunting/stalking expedition Edited October 23, 2010 by Beretta28g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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