P~MX Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 I think most of us would agree there a Lot of problems within Clay shooting today, Sporting & Fitasc have never been in a more sorry critical state for many reasons, the financial state of the country being the main one in my opinion, what do you think of the way our port is these days whats right and whats wrong in your opinions -- maybe someone will read this and we could help in some way ? f3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootreview Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 I have shot the odd competition now again and find (or did when i was shooting) that some of the best shooting is the competition layouts. The main problem that i had was-I had to pay for one of the associations either an annual fee or a large fee to join for the day. This put me off a little. I also know for a fact that a lot of the good grounds stopped putting the competitions on because they where not allowed to let regular shooters shoot said competitions without being a member of the association thus the grounds started losing money as the amount of shooters on the day they had for a practice/general shoot was less than the amount of shooters shooting the competition thus losing the ground money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 The competiton crowd may be having problems but the strawbalers seem to be thriving. Perhaps the 'professionals' should have a look at what the 'amateurs' are doing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootreview Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Like i said in my previous post. The main problem is, there is not enough money to be made in hosting a competition unless its a major one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Any ground that has any sense (or balls) will still let non-CPSA members shoot on a birds-only basis. More fool them, the ones that don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootreview Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 cpsa wont allow them to do it without the shooters being members. If they do cpsa will remove the membership of the ground thus not allowing any more comps. That is why you can now join cpsa for a day cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 The CPSA aren't to know. I won't name any of the grounds on here, but I could give a fair list of those that would let you. Not many grounds will turn away punters if they turn up with cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 The CPSA aren't to know. I won't name any of the grounds on here, but I could give a fair list of those that would let you. Not many grounds will turn away punters if they turn up with cash. Of course that's the case, always has been, and always will be. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Of course that's the case, always has been, and always will be. Cat. What is the system like in the USA as they are big into clays etc. Do they have a better system then us Britts! If so why ? TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) Now that Claysporting has gone to cock, have all the anti-CPSA whining sessions migrated over here? God help us all. If you want to shoot serious competition, just join the ******* CPSA It'll save a mega****load of bandwidth. Edited October 30, 2010 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Now that Claysporting has gone to cock, have all the anti-CPSA whining sessions migrated over here? God help us all. If you want to shoot serious competition, just join the ******* CPSA It'll save a mega****load of bandwidth. exactly if you want to shoot competitively against the best 'Clay; shooters you need to join. if you want to shoot as a hobby dont join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Now that Claysporting has gone to cock, have all the anti-CPSA whining sessions migrated over here? God help us all. If you want to shoot serious competition, just join the ******* CPSA It'll save a mega****load of bandwidth. Exactly.... If you want to shoot comp, shoot it, if not don't I'm not the cpsa's biggest fan but there is no alternative if you want to put some real effort into your clayshooting Strawbalers are fine if that's what you want to shoot but there's no point arguing the fact, it's a bit like 'Marmite' innit I've heard it all before Azzurri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) I personally would recommend All shotgun shooters join the CPSA if for nothing else to have strength & support in numbers, We as members need an association that has the very best intentions for All shooters and our shotgun sports in mind. f3 Edited October 30, 2010 by f3x3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perazzi82 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Now that Claysporting has gone to cock, have all the anti-CPSA whining sessions migrated over here? God help us all. If you want to shoot serious competition, just join the ******* CPSA It'll save a mega****load of bandwidth. but is it not the point that these "serious competitions" have very little to separate them from the "straw balers" anymore? the biggest difference i have noticed is the bloody price of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I think most of us would agree there a Lot of problems within Clay shooting today,Sporting & Fitasc have never been in a more sorry critical state for many reasons, the financial state of the country being the main one in my opinion, what do you think of the way our port is these days whats right and whats wrong in your opinions -- maybe someone will read this and we could help in some way ? f3 As someone who shoots Sporting or FITASC (badly) nearly every weeked what are the many reasons why are they in a sorry critical state? Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 As someone who shoots Sporting or FITASC (badly) nearly every weeked what are the many reasons why are they in a sorry critical state? Mr Potter Mr P. do I take it from your reply you think everything is good with a rosy future in the world of Clay Shooting ? :blink: semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Mr P. do I take it from your reply you think everything is good with a rosy future in the world of Clay Shooting ? semi That's not how I read it, seems like a fair question to me given your OP? And can you answer without starting another lead vs steel debate? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I personally would recommend All shotgun shooters join the CPSA if for nothing else to have strength & support in numbers, We as members need an association that has the very best intentions for All shooters and our shotgun sports in mind. f3 We have one, it's called the BASC. FM :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Mr P. do I take it from your reply you think everything is good with a rosy future in the world of Clay Shooting ? semi No I don't think everything is good with a rosy future but I'm curious as to why you obviously don't think there is? Are you referring to all sporting/FITASC shooting or specifically CPSA registered events? Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) I think most of us would agree there a Lot of problems within Clay shooting today, Sporting & Fitasc have never been in a more sorry critical state for many reasons, the financial state of the country being the main one in my opinion, what do you think of the way our port is these days whats right and whats wrong in your opinions -- maybe someone will read this and we could help in some way ? f3 I personally dont think it has anything to do with the economy. I am 'new' to the sport, just over 12 months in since getting a SGC. I am not a member of any asociation at the moment. I have shot at the local clubs, and the winter league. I am really enjoying it and everyone seems to be friendly and helpful. I must admit I found it all a little intimidating in the begining. I love the sport and try and get out at once a week for a practice. Why havent I joined the CPSA? I dont think they have really connected with me as a new shooter. I dont really know who they are, what they do, what they could do for me if I joined or where to find them other than the net. Its not the cost, its more what I would get back in exchange for the fees. If I am honest I dont know the answer. As for recommending all shooters join the CPSA to have strength and numbers, thats all well and good if I knew what exactly they have done / are planning on that front, again I dont know. Image, Message and communication needs to be tweeked a bit I think. Thats not a dig at the CPSA, just my thoughts on the matter as you asked. You could say I am a floating member at the moment, and one day I will vote with my money. Edited November 1, 2010 by Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Just what do you expect from the CPSA, or BASC come to that..?? Do you expect somebody to come knocking on your door with a big bunch of flowers and a case of fine wine offering you membership from the comfort of your armchair..?? It's down to you as a newcomer to the sport to find out all you can and then make your own informed decision about which organisation you should be a member of. There's loads of info about the CPSA here: http://www.cpsa.co.uk/ If you're serious about getting anywhere in the sport then you need to be a member, it's that simple. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) It's all been said and done before, here: 1. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...767&hl=cpsa 2. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...724&hl=cpsa 3. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...125&hl=cpsa It is interesting to note that the Essex Masters are putting a spin on the event next year with a team entry option - I wonder if any of the organisers have been reading Mungler's top tips on here? © Mungler 2010 etc. I am sure this is absolutely forbidden in the CPSA rule book..... Not just lone shooters? Team event? Group "fun"?. Not at a CPSA registered event. Next there'll be talking and banter between stands.... Edited November 2, 2010 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 You can enter teams at quite a few of the CPSA majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 You can enter teams at quite a few of the CPSA majors. No! What next? CPSA registered grounds masquerading as straw balers by letting non CPSA members shoot CPSA competitions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 No! What next? CPSA registered grounds masquerading as straw balers by letting non CPSA members shoot CPSA competitions? :blink: So long as it's on a birds only basis. They should probably accept that in order to shoot a CPSA competition, they should actually be in the CPSA though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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