Browning Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 We held our beaters day yesterday, which was a great event, everyone having a good time, lots of **** taking and ribbing over good and bad shooting. So at noon, after having four good drives and 24 brace on the game cart, we stop for a cuppa and some nosh. There we are, standing around in the farmyard, when old Charles Nox comes running round the corner, closely followed by about 15 pair of foxhounds and half a dozen horses, with huntsman and whips aboard. Charles Nox takes a double take at us, and whips around us across a wheat field directly towards our next drive. The master, huntsman and whips stop to apologise, as they had no permission to be there in the first place, and then proceed to gallop after the hounds......straight across the wheat...... and smack through the middle of our next, and biggest, drive. Our shoot captin goes ballistick, closely followed by the farmer whos wheat was being trampled. Eventually they gather the hounds and come back through the farmyard, where by now another dozen or so mounted followers had gathered. The master apologises profusely, which tempered the situation very slightly, and turned and rode out of the yard. Closely followed by the other mounted followers, one of which was heard to say "Ooops, looks like we've upset the little people, ha ha ha!". There then followed lots of comments by the hunt followers (Who, just to make this clear, had no permission to be hunting over that land) about those "shooting types" ruining their sport. Unfortunately we later found out that they had also ridden through our second biggest drive also, which basically screwed the afternoon for us. Now I am most definitely not, in any way shape or form, an anti. BUT attitudes like those that were shown yesterday, and a total lack of respect for fellow country sports enthusiasts, have changed my opinion of hunts. More and more I hear "We must stick together", then it only takes one episode like yesterday to immediately turn 25 hard working beaters and 8 guns against hunting forever. Sorry about the length of my "rant", but I had to tell someone as Mrs Browning just doesn't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Browning, A lot of peoples attitude has changed against the hunt. Not so long ago they wanted everyone in countryside sports to help them with there cause, ( me included ), but now, even some farmers I know are not impressed with them. Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Should have shot the fox in the farmyard Job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 There is no excuse for insensitive comments being made, that is just plain ignorance. Unfortunately, there is good and bad in all groups it seems. It is difficult to control a pack at full cry, especially when they are that close to a fox. The Master apologising was the correct thing to do and its a pity it didn't end there. My experience is that more people are supporting Hunts now than ever did. Some because they have no complaints about drag hunting and others because they don't like things being banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I believe a polite word to the Masters, and to the Huntsman would be acceptable in this case. You would be surprised the fines these members will be faced with from these two. Do not judge all hunts or even all members of this hunt by the actions of a few. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Should have shot the fox in the farmyard Job done :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted February 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Should have shot the fox in the farmyard You've never seen so many blokes rush to get guns out of slips in your life !!!! Unfortunately it wasn't too safe or she would have had more than a few ounces of No5 shot chasing her up the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbears10 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Browning they were chasing that fox by accident were they? It seems like they were breaking more laws than you can shake a stick at and ruining your shoot into the bargain. Like others say though you can't judge all hunts by one group of tossers. I bet you have met some rude guns in your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I bet you have met some rude guns in your time Met 'em...they'll all on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I bet you have met some rude guns in your time Met 'em...they'll all on here :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 The moral of the story is, don't allow your shoot to become overrun with Basil Brushes, and the local tally ho mob will have no reason to be anywhere near. Sounds like you need to invite Frank over from across the water - must be worth a crate of Guinness..!!! Tongue firmly in cheek, Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Browning, I am sorry that the hunt ****** your shooting up, but you can be sure it wasn't deliberate. As Cranfield has posted, a pack on the tail are pretty much commited no matter what. Bit like a cur on a hare! However that doesn't excuse the snide comment form the **** on a horse. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 However that doesn't excuse the snide comment form the **** on a horse. Well done LB, Tactful as ever. Cheers MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Browning, I am sorry that the hunt ****** your shooting up, but you can be sure it wasn't deliberate. LB They may not of deliberately wanted to screw up your sport, but that did not stop them carrying on regardless, they have never worried too much about the consequences of their actions, after all, we are only "little people" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbears10 Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Browning, I am sorry that the hunt ****** your shooting up, but you can be sure it wasn't deliberate. LB They may not of deliberately wanted to screw up your sport, but that did not stop them carrying on regardless, they have never worried too much about the consequences of their actions, after all, we are only "little people" Chris if we continue the generalisation that all people who hunt are toffs then the antis have won mate. It is no more true than saying all shotgun owners have matched Purdeys and shoot grouse in Sctoland every day of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Browning, I am sorry that the hunt ****** your shooting up, but you can be sure it wasn't deliberate. LB They may not of deliberately wanted to screw up your sport, but that did not stop them carrying on regardless, they have never worried too much about the consequences of their actions, after all, we are only "little people" I think they had to "carry on" to recover the hounds, I can't see that they had any other option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 My post has nothing to do with hunting folks being toffs, most of them are ordinary people, but about their lack of respect for other users of the countryside, after ruining the main drive they then went on to ruin the next best, presumably they never had permission to be there either. Can you imagine how they would of felt if one of the chaps in the yard had in fact shot the fox, it would of ruined their day, just as they did to the lads on their beaters day. Clearly, in-fighting among different branches of fieldsports will be counter productive to the common good, I have always supported the hunters right to do so, and will continue to do so, as I am sure did many of the people attending this particular shoot, I wonder how many of those beaters who maybe are getting their only pheasant shooting of the year will still feel this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted February 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) The beaters made it pretty clear what they thought in the pub afterwards. It was a unanimous "**** the hunt" in future. This also went for the guns that attended to beat for the beaters. I wondered what would have happened if they had gone through on a syndicate day, when guns had paid good money to be there...... We tried to work out how it could have happened, maybe we were just unlucky, but this yard is smack bang in the middle of a 1400 acre farm, which they were not allowed to hunt on until the middle of February. Oh well, forget about it and move on....... Edited February 2, 2006 by Browning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wol the hunter Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 i thought hunting with more than two dogs was illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Laws, if its in peoples blood a written law doesn't stop them, they met a pack that were *********, doesn't mean all packs are.....thats like saying you meet one moron so everyones a moron you meet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 No doubt the farmer concerned will be writing a stiff letter to the master demanding restitution for damages to his crops and some form of compensation for the shoot being ruined ? I know I would be in his shoes !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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