Blackbart Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 just busy doing a variation form,putting in the .22 and getting a FAC shotgun. What do you put on the form ? fac shotgun,7 shot shotgun,multi shot shotgun or what ? spoke to them yesterday and they said they would do it same day but unsure of what the correct wording so it dont get delayed. Anyone done it recently ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 When I applied for one I just put on my variation where it says caliber 12gauge then where it says type including action I put FAC Shotgun because I didn't want to limit myself to say a 5 shot pump if there was a 7 or 8 shot semi at the same price and besides I didn't know what I wanted regarding a pump or a semi or how many shots and I don't think u have to write how many shot u want just FAC shotgun all are above normal capacity anyway so they are all a FAC shotgun whether it be a 5 or 7 shot. And besides I didn't get mine flo came out said I didn't need it said I could do everything I wanted to do with a 3 shot semi I wanted a FAC shotgun for side of combine for bolting rabbitts and big flocks of pigeons. So who am I to argue. All the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I have my FAC shotgun down as a "Multi shot", that covers all options of magazine capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Just put "FAC Shotgun" they will know what you are on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I have my FAC shotgun down as a "Multi shot", that covers all options of magazine capacity. as above,just put multi shot,if they ask say u dunno what mag tube to put on it yet,I got a 12 shot benelli,others feel the can make do ok with a 5 or 6 shot.make up ure own mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 just put i cant hit them with first 2 so need more shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I just put shotgun 12bore semi auto and it came back as 12bore shotgun so i could of got a pump but cant see the point of pumpactions anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 There is no need to admit/deny how many shots your S1 shotgun may or may not hold, there is only S2 and S1 shotguns. S2 MUST have a magazine capacity of not more than 2 cartridges, S1 has no limit. If you get your FAC and it has a specified number of shots take it back as its not in compliance with the Firearms Act 1988 Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 When I applied for one I just put on my variation where it says caliber 12gauge then where it says type including action I put FAC Shotgun because I didn't want to limit myself to say a 5 shot pump if there was a 7 or 8 shot semi at the same price and besides I didn't know what I wanted regarding a pump or a semi or how many shots and I don't think u have to write how many shot u want just FAC shotgun all are above normal capacity anyway so they are all a FAC shotgun whether it be a 5 or 7 shot. And besides I didn't get mine flo came out said I didn't need it said I could do everything I wanted to do with a 3 shot semi I wanted a FAC shotgun for side of combine for bolting rabbitts and big flocks of pigeons. So who am I to argue. All the best. On the Nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Thanks for the info.I will just stick s1 shotgun methinks as that sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 If you put down a sect 1 shotgun does it allow you to have a short barrel shotgun like a 20" SxS or does that need a seperate slot? Just curious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 If they let you only put "s1 shotgun" you could technically but most forces insist on you specifying an action type, e.g. Self-loading, pump-action etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunters_return Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) Mine just says *12bore shotgun* think i will ask for the 12bore bit to be taken out. then it will just say *shotgun* Edited January 5, 2011 by hunters_return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 If you put down a sect 1 shotgun does it allow you to have a short barrel shotgun like a 20" SxS or does that need a seperate slot? Just curious? I think I mite be able to answer that! There's a guy at one of my clubs who has a sbs hammer shotgun, called a "coach gun" for riding shotgun on top the stagecoah with the driver. I dunno what the length is but its not much longer than 16in prob its. 18-20 in,I can ask if u really want to know. Yes it works and no I've not shot it. He's in the western society so he's got allsorts,I do like his little black powder derringer. Oh yes the coach gun is on his fac and its a 12 gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Slightly off the original topic but also important is how they word the ammunition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Slightly off the original topic but also important is how they word the ammunition. What do you mean "word the ammunition". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 well if you have SGC then you can obviously buy as many Sect 2 carts as you want but i have heard of people having "slug" which can obviuosly be fired from a normal S2 shotgun with the right choke etc it it is very confusing I have seen coach guns and i know "cow boy action shooting" is a thing and some have FAC for that i guess its similar to having a target only FAC. It is very confusing and subject to wide variation by location which doesnt help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 well if you have SGC then you can obviously buy as many Sect 2 carts as you want but i have heard of people having "slug" which can obviuosly be fired from a normal S2 shotgun with the right choke etc it it is very confusing I have seen coach guns and i know "cow boy action shooting" is a thing and some have FAC for that i guess its similar to having a target only FAC. It is very confusing and subject to wide variation by location which doesnt help! you can get solid slug for shooting deer as far as i know. subject to the usual jumping through hoops when shooting deer with shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 you can get solid slug for shooting deer as far as i know. subject to the usual jumping through hoops when shooting deer with shotgun No problem geting solid slugs for a multi shot shotgun for deer control if you have a real reason for them.I allready had a 5shot on my fac and just asked for slugs to be added I just returned my cert back to Flo and the added them to my ticket to hold 250 buy 200 12 bore slugs for deer and wild boar shooting. and no variation fee when you are changeing ammo on your fac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Section 1 shotgun,for shooting birds in accordance owith the purpose,terms and conditions of the general licence currently issued by the appropriate authority under the provisions of The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.That should cover it.Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) No problem geting solid slugs for a multi shot shotgun for deer control if you have a real reason for them.I allready had a 5shot on my fac and just asked for slugs to be added I just returned my cert back to Flo and the added them to my ticket to hold 250 buy 200 12 bore slugs for deer and wild boar shooting. and no variation fee when you are changeing ammo on your fac. Would you as an FAC holder be able to shoot slug through a none FAC shotgun? i.e. is down to you the person having the ability to buy and shoot slug? Or is it attached to the gun? Could one apply for an FAC just to shoot deer/boar with slugs from a sect 2 shotgun? Edited January 6, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Would you as an FAC holder be able to shoot slug through a none FAC shotgun? i.e. is down to you the person having the ability to buy and shoot slug? Or is it attached to the gun? Could one apply for an FAC just to shoot deer/boar with slugs from a sect 2 shotgun? Yes, you can use the slugs in any shotgun. I use slugs for deer in S1 and S2 shotguns as the slugs are not tied to a specific shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yes, you can use the slugs in any shotgun. I use slugs for deer in S1 and S2 shotguns as the slugs are not tied to a specific shotgun. Don't solid slugs require a rifled section in the last six inches or so of a shotgun barrel?Or is this not necessary? Genuine question..I know nothing about solid slugs or the legal requirements in this country,but have seen articles regarding this in American mag's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) I think you slugs for rifled and smooth barrels some slug have a sort of rifling built in to the slug. More info on slugs here http://www.buckandslug.webspace.virginmedia.com/ Edited January 6, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) The fins on UK slugs are to allow them to pass safely through choked barrels (they compress) rather than imparting spin on the slug for stabilisation. I don't know how it works with rifled barrels as they're Section 5 over here Mark Edited January 6, 2011 by Breastman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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