JR1960 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Ok next stupid question......not strictly a shooting question either but here goes I'm not into shooting foxes and i'm not a pest controller so i don't have the answer to the following: I was asked by a mate recently if i'd go and shoot a fox in his garden as it scares the **** out of his missus. (They have a small baby and i think she was spooked by the incident reported last year) Its in the suburbs (albeit a reasonably large garden) so shooting is obviously out, just because of where it is regardless of any other issues. Is there anything he (or a pest controller) CAN legally do though, short of simply turning his garden into Fort Knox, to keep them out/get rid of them?? Buy a crocodile for the swimming pool for instance??? Edited January 7, 2011 by JR1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 live capture trap and remove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 There are people around with an open ticket and a moderated .22 willing to perform back garden fox elimination services. As far as I understand a shot is taken from an upstairs window down into soft ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Professional pest controllers can,and do, shoot foxes in suburban gardens,but if you would rather not go down that route,then as has been said,a live cage trap could possibly be the answer.If your mate decides on the latter route,and decides to do it himself,he would do well to take advice on how to dispose of the fox legally,as not all his neighbours may be sympathetic if they get wind of what is going on.He may well ask you to dispose of it,once caught,as you have the means to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 well, if that's the case I could do the job with a moderated .22 on an open ticket, but i'm not bloody going to. And if anyone else wants to popping away with a firearm in a suburban garden good luck! I'll let him know its possible but he'll have to get someone else to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) well, if that's the case I could do the job with a moderated .22 on an open ticket, but i'm not bloody going to. And if anyone else wants to popping away with a firearm in a suburban garden good luck! I'll let him know its possible but he'll have to get someone else to do it. I've done it a few times... as have many others on here. Safe as houses Edited January 7, 2011 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yeah, and good luck, but not for me. Knowing my luck i'd hit the only stone in the garden and take out the local bobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 looks like its a trap and 243 john . smallest callibre for fox paddy will allow . 22 and hmr even in a cage is too small for the police around here . think its one of there pet hates . trap it and bring it up the farm mate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yeah, and good luck, but not for me. Knowing my luck i'd hit the only stone in the garden and take out the local bobby. Haahahah! My luck seems to run that way too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 pretty sure i've got fox on my .22s m8 and definitely have on .22/250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 pretty sure i've got fox on my .22s m8 and definitely have on .22/250 only states fox on my 243 , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 just checked it and its on both. Maybe he knows I can hit 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 It's all in the angle of the dangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Trap and .410 or 12 bore if messy! .410 with subs on to soft ground should be safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) There is nothing illegal as such about shooting foxes in people gardens, if you have the right tools, experience and paperwork. Each job has to be surveyed and a decision made by the person who will pull the trigger. Note the Dog food bait bowl, the .22lr and the proximity of other property, 5 foxes in total went down in this garden. ATB! Edited January 7, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 well, if that's the case I could do the job with a moderated .22 on an open ticket, but i'm not bloody going to. Why not? All you need to do is make the shot safe, and with a mobile trap that is so easy anyone can do it. A shot into soft ground isn't going to come back up if you go straight into it and with a trap you have the option of shooting down at 90 degrees to the ground. I've done dozens, over a hundred I should think. If it bothers you that much put a sheet over the trap and take it to the farm (obviously ask your land owner first). I've not come across a farmer yet that hasn't allowed the shooting of trapped Foxes on their ground. Then stick it in a bin bag and lob it out on bin day! Think about it. As long as you can catch that bullet there's no harm in it. .22s bounce but I've never experienced it when shooting a trapped Fox. The angle on the ground is just too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I wasn't talking about disposing of it in a trap. It was suggested you shoot them out of a bedroom window, and i didn't notice a trap in the pictures above. I'm not into shooting foxes...period...(although i have when requested) but if i was i wouldn't be shooting them in someone's garden, for me personally its just too risky and i wouldn't feel happy about it. If anyone else wants to volunteer i'll pass on your details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Fair play to you. If in doubt (which you are) then don't shoot. It's the safest way to be. It can be done safely though. It's all about knowing your ground - a safe backstop can be found almost anywhere. I've baited Foxes to stand and eat in front of compost bins before now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) I wasn't talking about disposing of it in a trap. It was suggested you shoot them out of a bedroom window, and i didn't notice a trap in the pictures above. I'm not into shooting foxes...period...(although i have when requested) but if i was i wouldn't be shooting them in someone's garden, for me personally its just too risky and i wouldn't feel happy about it. If anyone else wants to volunteer i'll pass on your details. Chap, whatever any individual wants to do, or is happy to do, or is legally entitled to do is down to them, like I said earlier..... Each job has to be surveyed and a decision made by the person who will pull the trigger. But, this sort of Pest Control is probably more common than you think, it is simply that generally speaking it is done in a low profile manner by professionals who have no desire to shout about what they are doing to all the neighbours in the street! My phone went ballistic last summer after those 2 children were allegedly chewed by a fox in their bedroom, everyone wanted (what they previously considered their "Pet") foxes in their gardens shot! ATB! PS I put most of them straight and probably turned down about 80% of the work! Edited January 7, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1in9 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 It was suggested you shoot them out of a bedroom window... Be very careful! It's being spotted by fearful members of the public which I'd be worried about. A shot from above sounds fine technically. Lights off, at night, shooting through a gap in the curtains from well back in the room if it was me. The last thing you want is armed plod rolling up, as happened to a fella I know who was 'visited' after cleaning his gun in his apartment without the windows closed and curtains drawn. Nosey neighbours The police were polite enough by all accounts but he did notice marksmen with line of sight into his house 'packing up' later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 410 hushpower on urban foxes, quick,silent, and above all humane, .22 is used if cages are not used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 looks like its a trap and 243 john . smallest callibre for fox paddy will allow . 22 and hmr even in a cage is too small for the police around here . think its one of there pet hates . trap it and bring it up the farm mate . My next door neighbour has Paddy but I don't, my FEO told me they "don't really like rimfire for fox", my .223 and .243 are both conditioned for fox and deer but the LR and HMR just vermin. Although when my FEO went to see another member on here he told him HMR was fine for fox. I can't keep up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'm not sure, but if your lr and HMR are conditioned for 'vermin',then surely that includes fox doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'm not sure, but if your lr and HMR are conditioned for 'vermin',then surely that includes fox doesn't it? nope, it's a separate condition round here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Hello All I havent come across a 'suburban' (transpose 'garden') fox yet that has disliked a moderated/subsonic .22lr, from 10-15m, whether in a live-catch trap and to the back of the head, or through the chest/shoulders if wandering about. Number 6 (Vixen, 0130hrs) & 7 (Dog,an hour or so later) in the happy hunting grounds during the 'white-stuff'. Funny thing is with them still where dropped number 8 walked around the garden with no 'tool' to hand..........these had given grief to a family member (rabbit) for a few weeks so had to go. I would respectfully suggest that any fox carcass is disposed of appropriately and it would be unwise to lump into a bin liner and out with the household refuse - a few years ago now when a couple of Roe heads were 'binned' following freezer going u/s Local Refuse Authority were real funny about it. Let off with a stern warning as they knew me. Cheers L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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