Archie-fox Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 hi all im just about to pick up my new howa .243 rifle i intend to use it mainly for foxing but have some land with the odd deer on it...i would like to use 1 type of round and was woundering what people are useing,and what you would recommend.. thanks in advance for any replies Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 If you are talking England/Wales then perhaps an 85-90g SP, in Scotland it will have to be 100g minimum for deer! As always, you will have to try a few to see what suits YOUR barrel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 hi dekers yea its england what makes would you recomend looking at?? i use sako rounds in my 22/250 but im thinking of trying norma in the 243.. what would you say to try?? regards rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) If you are talking England/Wales then perhaps an 85-90g SP, in Scotland it will have to be 100g minimum for deer! As always, you will have to try a few to see what suits YOUR barrel! Only if it's reds sika, fallow you're after....otherwise you can use just about any round in 243 for roe in scotland.... Regards, Gixer Edited March 30, 2011 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 If you are like most of us its more decided by what your local dealer(s) is selling rather than what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 If you are talking England/Wales then perhaps an 85-90g SP, in Scotland it will have to be 100g minimum for deer! As always, you will have to try a few to see what suits YOUR barrel! sorry mate your wrong as you can use a 22 CF in Scotland to harvest Roe deer,which means anything from a 50gr bullet, but going back to the OPs post an 87 gr V amx will do the job nicley,dont go above a 95gr as your rifle may not shoots them being a 10 twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowz Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 A friend of mine uses norms in his sako 75 an performs well on fox and deer, not sure what weight but will find out an get back to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Depends on the twist rate what one .243 likes another hates........ my 10 twist Tikka varmit likes 58 grain Hornady VMax I am set zero at 200 yards and group around 1 1/4 inch (@200) sometimes better but to be honest i dont paper punch unless i have to (if its working leave it alone) Edited March 30, 2011 by pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 sorry mate your wrong as you can use a 22 CF in Scotland to harvest Roe deer,which means anything from a 50gr bullet, but going back to the OPs post an 87 gr V amx will do the job nicley,dont go above a 95gr as your rifle may not shoots them being a 10 twist Badly worded I accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Only if it's reds sika, fallow you're after....otherwise you can use just about any round in 243 for roe in scotland.... Regards, Gixer You are correct of course, I should have qualified it better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 hi dekers yea its england what makes would you recomend looking at?? i use sako rounds in my 22/250 but im thinking of trying norma in the 243.. what would you say to try?? regards rich. It is a bit of a lottery what your rifle might like, and what you can find around your area, my .243 lives off PRVI 90g SP. I do however, get a few assorted Home Brews from time to time from another member here, and they seem to work pretty well generally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I use 100grn SP's in my home loads, for fox and deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 thanks for all that but im still unsure of what grn to use i just want 1 round to do both jobs if thats possible any ideas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
provider Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Why not go for something in the 85-87gr range . sierra 85gr hpbt or 87gr v-max, 87gr sp . I use all these and find them very effective on both roe and fox. 100gr hornady interlocks for reds. Prov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 thanks for all that but im still unsure of what grn to use i just want 1 round to do both jobs if thats possible any ideas?? what ever you hit them with they will fall over and die,i have already tols you what to use to do both jobs 87gr V max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 thanks for all that but im still unsure of what grn to use i just want 1 round to do both jobs if thats possible any ideas?? Go with 100 gr prvi's and see how you get on mate, buy 20 (1 box) and if you aren't getting a 2" group at 100 yards, try a different type or weight. The reason I say prvi's is they are cheap to buy! Regards Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Go with 100 gr prvi's and see how you get on mate, buy 20 (1 box) and if you aren't getting a 2" group at 100 yards, try a different type or weight. The reason I say prvi's is they are cheap to buy! Regards Gixer 2 inch at 100 yard what you shooting a shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Go with 100 gr prvi's and see how you get on mate, buy 20 (1 box) and if you aren't getting a 2" group at 100 yards, try a different type or weight. The reason I say prvi's is they are cheap to buy! Regards Gixer I would have said start with the 90grn and see how you get on with that first. As you go up in weight rifles tend to get more fussy. I like Privi and would recommend them to anybody but especially when you are shooting in a new barrel. Remember to buy some copper remover at the same time. my mate who has a shop remarked years ago about the number of people who buy a new rifle but never buy any cleaning materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I have used the 100gn and 90gn prvi's on pigs and goats as well as the odd fox and bunnies, I would stick with the 100gn pills. There cheap but they work fine on game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 2 inch at 100 yard what you shooting a shotgun and there we see why some people are happy with privi and most aren't. For the job in hand you need something like 85-95grn soft points. Norma make decent ammo so try some, If you get round to reloading you can try more but when you want a combined deer and fox bullet something in that weight range is ideal. Mine is deadly with 55grn federal ammo and shoots tiny groups, opens up a little more on 100grn lapua soft points but not much but they sure do knock deer down well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I had a howa 1500 .243 it hated privi with a vengance ( would have been better off with a catapult) and was in truth a bit fussy on ammo it was not good at all on over 90 grain rounds, I eventually stuck with off the shelf winchester 80 grain soft points, it loved these, very accurate with them,the new owner of the gun did some trigger work and bedded the stock in, and now using his own loads he has it giving amazing accuracy at even long distance. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I would have said start with the 90grn and see how you get on with that first. As you go up in weight rifles tend to get more fussy. I like Privi and would recommend them to anybody but especially when you are shooting in a new barrel. Remember to buy some copper remover at the same time. my mate who has a shop remarked years ago about the number of people who buy a new rifle but never buy any cleaning materials. I have used the 100gn and 90gn prvi's on pigs and goats as well as the odd fox and bunnies, I would stick with the 100gn pills. There cheap but they work fine on game. and there we see why some people are happy with privi and most aren't. For the job in hand you need something like 85-95grn soft points. Norma make decent ammo so try some, If you get round to reloading you can try more but when you want a combined deer and fox bullet something in that weight range is ideal. Mine is deadly with 55grn federal ammo and shoots tiny groups, opens up a little more on 100grn lapua soft points but not much but they sure do knock deer down well. ...and there we have the whole reason and purpose and interest in forums. PRVI 90g SP works in my .243, better than 100g, I can achieve 1" groups with PRVI in all my centrefires, .243SP, .223SP and .308SP, it has been suggested I am fortunate, that may well be the case, but I am not complaining. 2" groups at 100 yards is not disastrous, but I would not be too keen if that was the best I could do! This could go round and round, PRVI is GOOD, it just so happens it favors some barrels more than others...now where have I heard that before? PRVI is exceptionally good VFM (even though the price is steadily moving up), just because a .243 round costs £1.50 (or more) each, doesn't mean it will shoot well in YOUR barrel! As I have said, and others suggested, the only way forward is to try a few... ...and, if like me, you find your centrefires get on ok with PRVI you are in business! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 but im still unsure of what grn to use i just want 1 round to do both jobs if thats possible The Hornaday 87g come in three different flavours....Soft Point, Hollow Point, & the Vmax. The Reds over the border, you'll have to sort a 100g out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 2 inch at 100 yard what you shooting a shotgun From my experiance most stalkers cannot acheive even this 2" consistantly! All anyone needs to do is witness the DSC1 shooting test being taken. Many more sub MOA capable rifles out there than there are people who can shoot them and thats just a fact, despite the claims to the contrary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I find as an all rounder 85gr Sierra's (Federal) shoot well in mine on everything from vermin to Reds. However I tend to use a lighter bullet for fox and vermin and a 95 for deer. All that is required is a few clicks alteration when I change ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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