Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Hey, all. Ive got a bit of money from last years harvest and my birthday and am thinking about getting a new air rifle. Ive looked into pcps but ive come to a conclusion that they wouldnt be right for me, although it would be handy for the accuracy But anyway what do you guys think is the best springer for all round shooting (rabbits, pigeons, corvids ect.) My bugdet is roughly £300-£400 and depending if i work alot this harvest will determin what accesories i buy, although i already have a BSA Essential scope which is amazing and i will keep for my new gun So what do you reccomend!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstancwsw Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 You wont go far wrong with a HW 97 or AA TX 200. Both very accurate out of the box and easy to learn to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Ooh, springers . For me, it would be between the HW97, TX200 and Prosport . I like underlever rifles. I have a TX200 Mk2, in 0.177 and if you can live with the weight it's a cracking rifle that with a bit of practice will hold its own with the best. Springers really are a personal thing though, and you need to devote some time to get the best from them but once mastered very satisfying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoTshoT-16 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 hw97 or hw77 or the AA tx200 or a AA prosport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 You wont go far wrong with a HW 97 or AA TX 200. Both very accurate out of the box and easy to learn to shoot. Beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 The two I have...see signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 The two I have...see signature I'll bet that Venom TX200 is sweet to shoot. I've come over all nostalgic now, have to get the springer out this weekend and see if I can still shoot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Never shot an underlever are they easy to use and how many pumps does it take to charge for a good shot (say 20-30 yrd rabbit) or am i getting underlever confused with a different type of air rifle? also has anyone had experience with the bsa lightning xl? i like the look of it and a mate has one who reccomends it. but im tempted but the tx200 or the hw 97 both look very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Underleavers just cock once like a break barrel - I have always prefered them myself. Edited March 30, 2011 by Devon Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Underleavers just cock once like a break barrel - I have always prefered them myself. Thanks. Ive just been watching some videos and reviews and have taken to the Air Arms TX200 The cosmetics are just 'right' for me. I can already imagine taking out some bunnies in the summer with one haha! There are loads of HW 97s on guntrader but the tx200 just has it for me at the moment. im sure things might change soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 If you like breakbarrels then a HW95 or HW80 are good bets, the latter being a bit heavier. The Lightning is a good springer, but you'll notice the recoil more than with an underlever. I find the HW97k the most satisfying to shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Thanks. Ive just been watching some videos and reviews and have taken to the Air Arms TX200 The cosmetics are just 'right' for me. I can already imagine taking out some bunnies in the summer with one haha! There are loads of HW 97s on guntrader but the tx200 just has it for me at the moment. im sure things might change soon Don't discount the Pro Sport, I think it's one of the best looking air rifles around. Edit: Just realised it's a bit above your budget but you could get a decent second hand one. Edited March 30, 2011 by FalconFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I,ve shot with HW,s for more years than I care to mention but IMHO I think that they have been outclassed by the Air Arms rifles-this company never seem to put out a pup.TX200-Prosport and was,nt there a Pro-Elite break barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchap Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 i've owned quite a few springers and i can say without doubt that the prosport was the best by a country mile,i had a walnut one in .177 and it was as accurate as any pcp i have owned and better than a few of them!.i sold it because of the weight,a sling would have helped enormously but i just couldn't bear to drill a hole in the stock to fit a swivel stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1652HCU Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) The HW97, HW77 & HW80 are excellent airguns, as are the TX200 & ProSport, but they are heavy. The BSA Lightning XL is a light break barrel, but the light weight does add up on the recoil. I also like the Diana 34 Classic Pro. Except for the ProSport (±£430), all the other air rifles mentioned are below £350 New. Edited March 30, 2011 by 1652HCU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Prosport is probably your best bet. It is fixed barrel, underlever cocking and the action is arranged so that you can carry it in a conventional sling. I've had HW77s for many, many years and the Propsort knocks the spots off them. Another good thing is that anyone can service them with commonly found tools. Even I can tune it and I'm notorious for my mechanical inability. £300 would get you a good used one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperR10 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I’m also with the others the Weihrauch would be a good choice. I have shot several different models of airrifles mainly thru club I am a member of. One that sticks in my mind was a Hw90 the guy wanted £200, I liked a lot it was extremely accurate and smooth, it did feel a bit on the heavy side, but it was very well balanced and felt right when shouldered. I was very tempted……but I hesitated and the guy sold it before the next club meet which was only a couple of days. I was gutted. Just had a quick check and Weihrauch HW57K,77K,80K,95K AND 97k are all within your budget new. The only Springer I own is a Webley Longbow SE, Would I recommend it to you? Yes I would. Its within your budget new. It is extremely accurate and has a very nice walnut thumbhole stock. The only downsides to this is cocking of the Webley is a tad hard, I have to give it a substantial tap to break the barrel in order to load pellet. After a hour at the club punching paper your starting to feel it and wishing you had a PCP.( But if you’re using it mainly for hunting then this shouldn’t be any problem.) . You asked about the BSA lightning once again a cracking rifle but looks a bit strange with the barrel shrouded?? Also it feels short… I was really impressed with its ease of use and accuracy. Good value for money in my opinion. One for sale on here second hand for 140 I think. Definitely a Cheaper option!! But I think you would be happier with a Weihrauch. If possible it would be a good idea for you to go along to a club and there you can try out different rifles. See which one you like. I know at our club the members will be more than willing to let you try their rifles. Good luck in you quest.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Air-Arms Prosport .22 had mine a wile now and its the best but heavy Good looking too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) Webley stingray for me in .22 flavour accurate up to 100 yards on targets(yes including the odd head shot at live quarry)with plenty of practice. Not too heavy, easy to cock and for 300-400 you can get a decent scope with it to. Have a word with Lloyd or Mick at Blackpool Air rifles they will do you a very good deal and will ship using a fac carrier (at your expense though ) Atb Shroom Edited to say The second you can do away with the essential get rid, they are pants mine was fogged up within 2-3 months of heavy usage. So took it back to BAR and they contacted BSA who refunded the total new value of the scope right away. Edited March 31, 2011 by mushroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTsHoT-10 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Prosprt,Hw77,Hw97 or Tx200 all very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 .....22 flavour accurate up to 100 yards on targets(yes including the odd head shot at live quarry)with plenty of practice. All the practice in the world would still make that a 1 in 100 shot. Not cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted March 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Great replys from everyone. some very tempting ones. Its great to hear i can get many of the HWs in my price range new im still sitting on the fence though, who can lure me to either air arms or wheihrauch? Im very temped by both and will read lots of reviews soon The cocking mech on the pro sport look much easier to work with but can anyone tell me if they prefer that mech or the standard underlever that is place under the barrel? Again thanks for all the replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) All the practice in the world would still make that a 1 in 100 shot. Not cool. Only if you can't do it consistently like I said it's not a regular occurance but on one permission all the fieldcraft in the world won't get you near the bunnies hence practicing long shots. Not winged one yet mind, straight headshots and retrieved by the staffy Edited to say I never take long shots if there is a wind Edited April 1, 2011 by mushroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hello again guys. I am pretty sure its between the tx200 and hw97k however i am drawn to the tx slightly more atm. Also the tx200 (beech stock) is for sale at £370 on scottcountry.co.uk Has anyone bought from here before? it is unlikley that i will buy online but it was just a thought as it seems to be the cheapest price for a new one. I will proberbly ask at my local gun shop as they seem to have a fair few airrifles in stock. Just having thoughts that mabey splashing out £350-£400 wont make too much difference than my gamo shadow 1000. i dont want to make any rush decicions but i feel the gamo just isnt accurate enough for what i need. also i am now wondering on what caliber. i have always used .22s but can anyone convince me to convert to .177? again this is for mainly rabbits and pigeons and the odd squirrel or rat. And one last question. Is the hunter carbine any better/worse? i always though a longer barrel meant a more accurate rifle but am i wrong? as i will be doing alot of walking and crawling (stalking rabbits) i dont want extra length if i dont need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I've had my HW97-KT for a few months now and it's by far the best air rifle i've ever shot. The TX-200's and the Prosports will always get great reviews because they're great guns, but rumour is that Weihrauch's react better to tuning. I shoot at 50 meters with the Weihrauch all the time (Targets only) and if I miss it's not the gun. If you went for any of the above mentioned guns you couldn't really go wrong. .177 for target work. .22 for hunting (Can of worms ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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