stace1g Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Now I know that you are (ideally) supposed to shoot shotgun with both eyes open (this works best for me) and definitely concentrate only on the target. However the rib and forsesight will be apparent in your peripheral vision. My question is what sight picture do other forum members have? At the moment my gun fit is set up so that I can see the top of the rib and the bead. I know others have their gun fit set up so that they are looking directly along the rib so as not to see its top. what is considered the best sight picture? Gaz Edited June 14, 2011 by stace1g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Cant say I even notice the barrel , rib or bead least not that im aware of after an eon of decoying, Im both eyes open and fixed on the bird in question, probably why I miss my quota of shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Now I know that you are (ideally) supposed to shoot shotgun with both eyes open (this works best for me) and definitely concentrate only on the target. However the rib and forsesight will be apparent in your peripheral vision. My question is what sight picture do other forum members have? At the moment my gun fit is set up so that I can see the top of the rib and the bead. I know others have their gun fit set up so that they are looking directly along the rib so as not to see its top. what is considered the best sight picture? Gaz the one that works for you..but i,ll give you mine i have to shut my left eye dominant one..then focus on the bird with head clamped on the stock then swing and automatically i can see end of barrels in relation to the bird,but keep looking at the bird not barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 the one that works for you..but i,ll give you mine i have to shut my left eye dominant one..then focus on the bird with head clamped on the stock then swing and automatically i can see end of barrels in relation to the bird,but keep looking at the bird not barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I've always used a shotgun with one eye closed but since I fitted an optical bead on my O/U I find shooting with both eyes open easier and I don't even notice the rib! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stace1g Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 What i meant was do you have the drop of the stock set so that you are looking completely along the rib so that you cannot see its top surface or do you have the stock slightly higher so that you can see the top of the rib? looking at it from the other way around if someone was to look down the rib at your eye in the first instance it would appear that your pupil was resting on the rib in the second your pupil woud appear to be a bit above the rib? I have heard of people having their guns set to both the latter (a flat shooting gun) and the former (one whose shot is centred slightly above ther point of aim) Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Generally most guns should place I believe 60% of the pattern above the point of aim This usually is how most game guns are set up Obviouslt trap guns tend to shoot higher than this You realy would be bext of going to a good gun fitter and shooting at a pattern plate followed bus some clays etc. I did this recently at the H & H grounbd and whilst they thought initially the gun was a good fit the stock had to be raised up a lot for me to shoot where I was looking. They arent cheap bit at least you know the gun is correct I know have a game gun that is set up like a trap gun which works for me but not for most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I see no rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 If I'm shooting well my sight picture is just the bead sat on top of the action. It's just there automatically and I don't deliberately check it. However, if I'm shooting like a **** I run through the shot in slow motion and 9 times out of 10 I find I can see the whole rib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 All my guns shoot flat. I see no rib whatsoever. When mounting the gun, I can see only the red foresight. When I actually shoot, I see neither rib nor sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stace1g Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) It seems to vary from person to person then, The only thing I have found is that if I have the stock set a little higher (so that you can see some rib top with the gun correctly mounted) the gun the of course shoots slightly higher than the point of aim and so I have a better view of the bird? Gaz Edited June 20, 2011 by stace1g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I prefer to see some rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 i see rib, figure of 8 with the mid and forebead. i`ve got no- eye dominance, with both eyes open i see anything upto 3 images where all my eyes try and take over. this is cured when i close one eye. incidently i use tiny beads on my shotguns. cant stand those orange things. if it workd, stick with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If you can see the top of the rib, then you are shooting high, or over the target even. If you only see the bead, then you are looking straight down the barrel, and your shot will go where that bead is sat. Put a chalk mark on a brick wall, then stand back 30 steps, about 30 yards that is, mount the gun so you see only the bead on that chalk mark, now tip the gun so you see the top of the rib too, then count how many bricks above that chalk mark the bead has moved. Quite surprising isn't it and most certainly a missed bird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If you can see the top of the rib, then you are shooting high, or over the target even. If you only see the bead, then you are looking straight down the barrel, and your shot will go where that bead is sat. Put a chalk mark on a brick wall, then stand back 30 steps, about 30 yards that is, mount the gun so you see only the bead on that chalk mark, now tip the gun so you see the top of the rib too, then count how many bricks above that chalk mark the bead has moved. Quite surprising isn't it and most certainly a missed bird... Ahhh But on a positive note : I could hit the brick wall at 30yrds (eyes open or shut ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Ahhh But on a positive note : I could hit the brick wall at 30yrds (eyes open or shut ) Ahh, yes, I bet you could, but I bet you miss the chalk mark... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 its all down to how you see the targets. if you want a good view of it, see some rib. most shooters prefer to see some rib so when they shoot at the target they see it above the bead, thus giving a clearer picture and will be central to the pattern. if you shoot a very flat rib possibly only 40% of the shot will be in your sight picture when on the target, this can also cause head lifting. my pennys worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If I'm shooting a target going directly away I have to have my eyes closed or I miss all the time - but for crossers, driven etc I can just see down the rib but that gets fazed out when I concentrate on the target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 You can hit a target with your eyes closed? How does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Sorry one eye closed hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stace1g Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) If you can see the top of the rib, then you are shooting high, or over the target even. If you only see the bead, then you are looking straight down the barrel, and your shot will go where that bead is sat. Put a chalk mark on a brick wall, then stand back 30 steps, about 30 yards that is, mount the gun so you see only the bead on that chalk mark, now tip the gun so you see the top of the rib too, then count how many bricks above that chalk mark the bead has moved. Quite surprising isn't it and most certainly a missed bird... Patterned it 'again' the other day with the comb set so i see a 'little' rib. 50/50 horizontal split on where i was pointing (centre of plate) so not a missed bird? And as has been said I get a better sight picture seeing some rib as you are a little more below the bird when 'on aim'. In addition the gun for me seems easier to 'point' when I see some rib, I think it helps to give a more consistent mount as the parallel lines of the rib although not looked at directly form some point of refrenece for the mount in the perripheral vision Gaz Edited June 24, 2011 by stace1g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Raising the comb up changes sight picture not point of impact- 2 different things. Also, it will only lead to you shooting over the top of everything if you try and "aim" the gun at a pattern plate. If you use it as a shotgun is intended, in a dynamic fashion and whilst focussing on the target you won't even know the ribs there, you will just have a better view of the bird. I'm am extreme case but my pupil sits about and inch and a 1/4 over the rib and I'm never aware of having to purposefully shoot under stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 There is a method made famous by Bob Brister of hanging 1/4 of an old bedsheet(don't use the new linen if you enjoy company in bed) with an aiming point in the center--paint spot--black marker-whatever. The distance you hang the sheet is 40yds hung about chest high. I use a full tube when I am testing for fit as it is a little easier to see the dense center and the sheet will wear through quicker. The drill is to throw the gun up both eyes on the spot not conciously aiming and fire, after about a dozen or so shots a hole will begin to wear through in your sheet-telling you exactly if your gun is shooting where you look or high- low- left- right. After you know where it shoots you can begin to correct if needed. I prefer 60/40 and centered where I am looking. Use light loads they tell the same story as heavys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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