wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Just curious as to whether anyone else has had this problem or not? My gun will cycle 28 gram 7 1/2s and also the supreme game 30 gram 6's but not the pigeon specials in 30g 6. Any ideas why this is the case? I would have thought that the 7 1/2's would have a similar 'kick' to the pigeon carts so I can't understand why they will go through without any problems when the special pigeons sometimes don't even blow back the bolt :blink: Anyone else had this problem with their auto and the pigeon specials?? Wasn't particluarly Impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 are they different length carts? its not always about the load and 'kick back', sometimes its the length that affects them (or so experience has showed me!) the browning gold my dad had would eject light loads that were 70mm but not heavy 67mm loads!? i dont know why though hopefully someone will be along to tell us soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 mine will cycle down to 24g carts if they are 70 or 67mm. True 65mm won't cycle at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 http://www.lyalvaleexpress.com/UK/gamecarts/pigeonspecial.htm That's the shells. They are 2 1/2 inch. I am slightly confused as I thought the gun will cycle anything. I can't decide whether it is a duff batch of shells,(unlikely), or a problem with the gun. Would be great to know if anyone else has had a problem with these or if it is just my gun If so, should I be looking at sending it back?? I have had the occasional minor hickup with the speed loading not working as well,(adding first shell and it isnt popping up into chamber or going into the mag, just stuck in the 'bottom'). On the whole it is a great gun but if mine is slightly defective I would want it fixed as they aren't cheap thoughts would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 ps the supreme game are also the same length as are the 7 1/2s I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 My Maxus doesnt like anything which has poor quality casings or if there is a slight knick on the casing which can catch...smoother cartridges seems to perform a lot better so maybe the casings are a little rough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 http://www.lyalvaleexpress.com/UK/gamecarts/pigeonspecial.htm That's the shells. They are 2 1/2 inch. I am slightly confused as I thought the gun will cycle anything. I can't decide whether it is a duff batch of shells,(unlikely), or a problem with the gun. Would be great to know if anyone else has had a problem with these or if it is just my gun If so, should I be looking at sending it back?? I have had the occasional minor hickup with the speed loading not working as well,(adding first shell and it isnt popping up into chamber or going into the mag, just stuck in the 'bottom'). On the whole it is a great gun but if mine is slightly defective I would want it fixed as they aren't cheap thoughts would be great! i have seen adverts for alot of guns (hatsan) that tell people that dont believe everything you read on the tin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 i have seen adverts for alot of guns (hatsan) that tell people that dont believe everything you read on the tin! hatsan is 700 cheaper! I could almost come to terms with that not cycling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 My Maxus doesnt like anything which has poor quality casings or if there is a slight knick on the casing which can catch...smoother cartridges seems to perform a lot better so maybe the casings are a little rough? Thanks for the input. I don't think the cases are poor quality but I will have a look. I certainly would have thought that the cases on the lyalvale shells would be better than the cheapy 7 1/2 clay shells I have got. They are faultless too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 My browning fusion would only cycle Kent velocity 28g so I don't have it anymore. When I had my escort it would cycle anything. It seems that the more they do to them ( technology ) the worse they work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 hatsan is 700 cheaper! I could almost come to terms with that not cycling but people writing adverts are all the same everyone can twist the truth or just be a out right bull s****er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 but people writing adverts are all the same everyone can twist the truth or just be a out right bull s****er I know what you mean If those 6's are the only thing it won't cycle then I will be happy enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 from what i have heard (from quite alot of people) they are great guns! if i had the pennys i would be buying one asap! i have yet to hear a bad word about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 from what i have heard (from quite alot of people) they are great guns! if i had the pennys i would be buying one asap! i have yet to hear a bad word about them Thanks! I certainly find it better balanced than the xtrema2. Only problem is the ruddy front sight,(those glow beads) keeps sliding out. So far I've lost one and bent another Would be great to hear if anyone has tried pigeon specials through their maxus though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Is it something to go with it bring backbored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 whats backbored? Cheers for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) It's something to do with the forcing cones I think but I remember a friend having issues with the new clear pigeon as the back boring started to affect the pressure which may affect the problem your having as said can't be sure though as we didn't chat about it for long but may be worth looking into Edited September 9, 2011 by mpk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Just curious as to whether anyone else has had this problem or not? My gun will cycle 28 gram 7 1/2s and also the supreme game 30 gram 6's but not the pigeon specials in 30g 6. Any ideas why this is the case? I would have thought that the 7 1/2's would have a similar 'kick' to the pigeon carts so I can't understand why they will go through without any problems when the special pigeons sometimes don't even blow back the bolt :blink: Anyone else had this problem with their auto and the pigeon specials?? Wasn't particluarly Impressed you need to use 70mm and above as it states on the barrel and hand book, dont matter if 24.28.32gm,just needs to be 70mm.i tried to use up some pigeon specials i had when i first got my maxus,sometimes ok other times just jammed.now i only ever use 70mm carts.dont matter what weight so long as 70mm...2,000 plus through it without a prob...great gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 My browning fusion would only cycle Kent velocity 28g so I don't have it anymore. When I had my escort it would cycle anything. It seems that the more they do to them ( technology ) the worse they work I also have a Browning fusion ( Great Gun ) but you know ..... I have more fun with my Hatson Escort Magnum, cycles everything ... Drop it in the muck.... Who cares ....and it really can hit the clays ....I Just Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Been using Lyalvale 30g 6's for a while now and never had any problems(except trying to find the ejected carts in the undergrowth 3yds away!) These are the short ones as its easy to forget how many its legal to load int the mag though they are not Special pigeon. Wouldn't have thought they were that different. I actually try to get the Lyalvales as they perform really well in mine! Makes me think it could be a bad batch Hope you sort it anyway As for the front sight, I put an Easyhit on mine which stops the original going anywhere! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 good advice from above My beretta urika 2 isn't very keen on 65mm carts. stick to 70mm and all is good Also when the bolt area on my beretta gets too dry, it will start to not cycle everytime. Needs a small amount of oil on it every so often. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thanks! I certainly find it better balanced than the xtrema2. Only problem is the ruddy front sight,(those glow beads) keeps sliding out. So far I've lost one and bent another Would be great to hear if anyone has tried pigeon specials through their maxus though As above, stick with 70mm as per the manual. You're putting carts through the gun that are stated as not compatible and talking about sending it back, that'll just be embarrassing. Although Eley Firsts for example (at 67mm) are fine through mine. 100% failure on 65mm carts, 100% success on 67mm, 70mm, 76mm & 89mm and at 24grm and upwards. And as for the front sight/bead, i got ****** off with those light pipes bending and failing out as you describe, i replaced it with screw in bead from eBay (if you're interested it's a 3mm thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 i have only had any trouble with 65mm 24gram hulls , i have put plenty of just crartridges 32 gram 65mm through with no problem atall. i have not tryed 24 gram 70 mm caets , i`ll give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 I only use my maxus on clays, mate of mine had some 67, 21 gram shells tried them out no problem tried 65 didnt like them so think its more then likly case size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 As above, stick with 70mm as per the manual. You're putting carts through the gun that are stated as not compatible and talking about sending it back, that'll just be embarrassing. Although Eley Firsts for example (at 67mm) are fine through mine. 100% failure on 65mm carts, 100% success on 67mm, 70mm, 76mm & 89mm and at 24grm and upwards. And as for the front sight/bead, i got ****** off with those light pipes bending and failing out as you describe, i replaced it with screw in bead from eBay (if you're interested it's a 3mm thread). Super glue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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