57bigchap Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 i would like to congratulate Prince William for intervening on the wearing of a poppy in remembrance of the fallen heroes who gave all and still are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15666769.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yeah I think FIFA dropped the ball there. Seems such a simple thing yet in this day and age nothing surprises me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onslow52 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 We shall remember them and hope that all the home nations win. Thankyou Prince William and Prime Minister David Cameron for helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 In light of all the furore regarding remembering the fallen, who have given their lives to allow these grossly over paid and over privileged children (and I use the word intentionally as I don't class these people, nor myself, as fully grown men, as equal to those who gave their lives) the opportunity to represent their country I would expect the players to up their game and play for pride rather than for their individual agents and look to bring pride and respect to a sporting arena rather than looking to line their own pockets - but maybe I am just being a touch cynical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 In light of all the furore regarding remembering the fallen, who have given their lives to allow these grossly over paid and over privileged children (and I use the word intentionally as I don't class these people, nor myself, as fully grown men, as equal to those who gave their lives) the opportunity to represent their country I would expect the players to up their game and play for pride rather than for their individual agents and look to bring pride and respect to a sporting arena rather than looking to line their own pockets - but maybe I am just being a touch cynical I don`t watch any football now, it`s a game for girls. Not a hair out of place, socks pulled up above the knees, wear gloves etc etc. I agree they are grossly overpaid but anyone offered that amount of money isn`t going to say no thanks, i`ll do it for less. No one should be paid for playing for their country, in fact years ago the players footed their own expences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I don`t watch any football now, it`s a game for girls. Not a hair out of place, socks pulled up above the knees, wear gloves etc etc. I agree they are grossly overpaid but anyone offered that amount of money isn`t going to say no thanks, i`ll do it for less. No one should be paid for playing for their country, in fact years ago the players footed their own expences. What have you got against girls, i think they're great - in fact I love them so much I married a girl several years ago (yes she was over 16 before anyone asks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) I'm surprised the **** wits even know what a poppy signifies. Edited November 9, 2011 by ack-ack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oisin og Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 The original decision of FIFA not to permit the wearing of the poppy by players during an international match was correct. I regret that they have altered their ruling. The comments by the PM and a member of the royal family are short sighted and ill considered. The issue of wearing such insignia or symbols by sportsmen representing their country is potentially divisive and the backing down by FIFA makes more likely the probability of a serious dispute in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 The original decision of FIFA not to permit the wearing of the poppy by players during an international match was correct. I regret that they have altered their ruling. The comments by the PM and a member of the royal family are short sighted and ill considered. The issue of wearing such insignia or symbols by sportsmen representing their country is potentially divisive and the backing down by FIFA makes more likely the probability of a serious dispute in the future. What planet are you on? It is to remember people of all races and religions that died fighting for the allies in the war. There's no religious aspect to it. NOT WEARING THEM IS AN INSULT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 The original decision of FIFA not to permit the wearing of the poppy by players during an international match was correct. I regret that they have altered their ruling. The comments by the PM and a member of the royal family are short sighted and ill considered. The issue of wearing such insignia or symbols by sportsmen representing their country is potentially divisive and the backing down by FIFA makes more likely the probability of a serious dispute in the future. Sorry but who exactly is going to dispute the wearing of a poppy on or near to remembrance day? I think you are merely casting some bait looking for an argument and I can already guess which route it will go down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I am all for people buying poppy's but all of this fuss about footballers wering them is a joke we have had poppy's for over 60 years and nothing has been said about it before so what has changed over that time to make it such a big deal all of a sudden or is it just a ploy to take peoples minds of more important things :look: :look: :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 The original decision of FIFA not to permit the wearing of the poppy by players during an international match was correct. I regret that they have altered their ruling. The comments by the PM and a member of the royal family are short sighted and ill considered. The issue of wearing such insignia or symbols by sportsmen representing their country is potentially divisive and the backing down by FIFA makes more likely the probability of a serious dispute in the future. What a load of ******* ****!!! Get real! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I am all for people buying poppy's but all of this fuss about footballers wering them is a joke we have had poppy's for over 60 years and nothing has been said about it before so what has changed over that time to make it such a big deal all of a sudden or is it just a ploy to take peoples minds of more important things :look: :look: :look: I think watching the fallen being repatriated through Royal Wooton Basset has brought it to the forefront of the general publics minds and people feel more strongly about it now than they did in the recent past,the younger generation that is.As the older ones have already seen it all before and would never forget. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sorry but who exactly is going to dispute the wearing of a poppy on or near to remembrance day? I think you are merely casting some bait looking for an argument and I can already guess which route it will go down! Probably a celtic fan,a few of them have caused a bit of up set up here over the last few years. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/veterans-anger-as-celtic-fans-stage-half-time-protest-against-poppies-1.1066550 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/11/09/we-muted-sound-of-celtic-fans-chanting-during-minute-s-silence-admit-sky-86908-21808124/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) The original decision of FIFA not to permit the wearing of the poppy by players during an international match was correct. I regret that they have altered their ruling. The comments by the PM and a member of the royal family are short sighted and ill considered. The issue of wearing such insignia or symbols by sportsmen representing their country is potentially divisive and the backing down by FIFA makes more likely the probability of a serious dispute in the future. If it was the Irish Republic wearing an easter lily would you be spouting the same ****? Typical Anti British, Irish ashamed of nothing O'ffended by evertyhing muppet. Edited November 10, 2011 by dazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I am sorry that this post is becoming divisive between some members of the different communities in Ireland. The highly successful visit of HM the Queen to the Irish Republic in May should be an example to us all. The Queen and the then President of the Irish Republic paid their respects in a most dignified way both at the memorial to those who gave their lives for the cause of Irish Independence and at the War Memorial at Islandbridge in Dublin, commemorating Irish soldiers who gave their lives for the cause of freedom both in the First & Second World Wars. Many, many Irishmen served in both wars. Many from the Republic of Ireland still continue to serve with distinction in the British Army. Just last year, I remember a very moving service held in County Mayo at the funeral of a young Irishman who had been serving with the Royal Marines and had been killed in Helmand Province. Whilst some Irishmen may not have a great love for the British, I think they should reflect on what their fate would have been if the allies had lost the second world war. I can guarantee that Hitler and the Nazis would have no more respected Ireland's neutrality than they did that of Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Poland the Netherlands and so on. De Valera and the Irish Government recognised this and gave tacit support to the allies. Hence the Atlantic Corridor over County Donegal which allowed RAF & US flying boats to cross neutral territory from Lough Erne to reach the North Atlantic and attack German U boats, saving several 100 miles of flying which would have been needed if they had had to fly via Londonderry/Derry and around the Inishowen Peninsula. Coupled with this was the repatriation of RAF aircrews who had crash landed in the Republic, the very active sharing of intelligence by the Irish army and intelligence services and so on...... Having said all of this, I believe that the significance and impact of wearing a poppy is that it is a matter of personal choice. I think that this can be diluted if it becomes a "compulsory" issue but that is my opinion. There is no doubt though that the general public's awareness of the armed forces and the sacrifice that they make has increased enormously in recent years. As a former soldier, I welcome that. Recently, we were in Ypres and also at the Thiepval Memorial and Ulster Tower on the Somme. It was very moving to see the respect and awareness shown by school parties and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 What planet are you on? It is to remember people of all races and religions that died fighting for the allies in the war. There's no religious aspect to it. NOT WEARING THEM IS AN INSULT To some extent I disagree. Footballs should be about football. Though the poppies are a noble cause I feel that for the sake of unity political beliefs should have no place in international football. The wearing of emblems to represent historical grievances can very easy cause tension between nations with previously otherwise rocky histories. FIFA should be about bringing nations together, and should have no part in displaying anything that will divide people other than team colours. I know that no one sane would have any issues with anyone wearing a poppy, but it needs to be a simple flat ban on all political emblems and it is only fair that we have to fall in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I know that no one sane would have any issues with anyone wearing a poppy, but it needs to be a simple flat ban on all political emblems and it is only fair that we have to fall in line. But the poppy is neither political, reglious or commercial (the items that FIFA said were banned from shirts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) But the poppy is neither political, reglious or commercial (the items that FIFA said were banned from shirts). It's not directly polictal no, but it the power that is carried behind it is highly political. What do you think would happen if we didn't see the PM or Head of state or, anyone, in the public eye not wearing one? - it would become a polictal issue. The football field is about football, if players want to follow and advertise causes while training, or in there own time that's up to them, but I don't think it's suitable on the field. Edited November 10, 2011 by Bleeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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