gixer1 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Very sad, but I can't help think when someone with kids commits suicide they are being a bit selfish as the kids really will be haunted by this.. :( RIP.. Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Clinically depressed? Marital troubles, who knows...very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Something been playing on his mind I wonder? i really hope thats not the case. Its very sad. Tragic loss...frightening...thought he had everything going for him...was he married?...he's got kids. married with 2 young kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 True sportsman and gentleman well loved in Newcastle and throughout football. Rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Very sad, but I can't help think when someone with kids commits suicide they are being a bit selfish as the kids really will be haunted by this.. :( RIP.. Gixer Right on gixer1 totally selfish and cowardly towards the children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Bloody hell! I was watching him on Football Focus yesterday lunchtime with Gary Mac and he was saying how good things were looking for the Welsh national team. :( same here was shocked to hear the news he had took his own life. RIP speedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 On the news they tend to think that it is down to depression the problem is not that it is any of our business but you never no what is behind it I remember a place that I worked years ago there was a really nice bloke worked there in the tool room one day when we came in to work in the morning there was police cars there it seems that this bloke had put his head under a press it only went up and down about 2 inches but there was just enough room to get his head under it and killed himself it was said that the police caught him with some dirty photos and he could not face the shame of everyone finding out it just goes to show that you never really no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Its not right to judge, or to hypothesise, just to feel respect for a worthwhile life lost and sympahy for, first his boys, his wife and the rest of his family, as most have done. A very sad loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HIS Welsh team and I feared for Scotland in that section but my thoughts go to the familly and you cannot condemn the man as this is not the action of a rational mind I hope he's found peace my attitude is there but for the grace of god RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Dont judge a man till you have been in his footsteps. Selfish as it maybe but you wasnt him and you didnt know what he was going through. Goodbye Gary Speed and may you res in Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 No one has mentioned that it could have been that silly game of auto-erotic-asphyxiation, the act that people claimed took other well known people in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Such sad news about Gary Speed, but I do have to agree that taking your own life is one of the most selfish and cowardly things you could do. Everyone has troubles in their life, it is no excuse to leave 2 young boys without a Father for the rest of their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) I did think it a quite a bit insensitive today on the 18:30 ITN news that they gave about 60 seconds to the announce yet another waste of a British Soldiers life in Afghanistan(yes I know it is day in day out), But then to go on to report at well over 5 minutes the loss of a "True hero" Gary speed! Sorry there is no comparison, Edited November 28, 2011 by V8landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I did think it a quite a bit insensitive today on the 18:30 ITN news that they gave about 60 seconds to the announce yet another waste of a British Soldiers life in Afghanistan(yes I know it is day in day out), But then to go on to report at well over 5 minutes the loss of a "True hero" Gary speed! Sorry there is no comparison, News tends to reflect popular thinking - Gary Speed was well and widely known and well loved, the soldier was well loved but not so well known and he deserved more respect for the type of service he died giving. Gary Speed would probably have agreed with your viewpoint. Both deaths were a sad waste of life. Its clear to me who should be called 'hero', in the truest sense of that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Such sad news about Gary Speed, but I do have to agree that taking your own life is one of the most selfish and cowardly things you could do. Everyone has troubles in their life, it is no excuse to leave 2 young boys without a Father for the rest of their life. I think if you're suffering from depression, rational thought doesn't enter the equation. Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I aggree with those of you who beleive that the serviceman who died was a True Hero. Food For thought. We had an unexplained suicide from a well loved member of our community well over a year ago. Nobody knew why, he left no note, lovely wife, 2 great grown up children, lots of friends. Still asking why?. A local minster said something like this We hear of fatal heartattacks, maybe you can have a "heart attack" of the mind, which causes this type of thing? Don't know but..... Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 - Gary Speed was well and widely known and well loved, I must be the only person that had never heard of Gary Speed until the recent events! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imissalot Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I did think it a quite a bit insensitive today on the 18:30 ITN news that they gave about 60 seconds to the announce yet another waste of a British Soldiers life in Afghanistan(yes I know it is day in day out), But then to go on to report at well over 5 minutes the loss of a "True hero" Gary speed! Sorry there is no comparison, said that to the wife ,dont want to offend but he killed him self and is said to be a hero ,a hero gets killed and gets 30 seconds of fame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Such sad news about Gary Speed, but I do have to agree that taking your own life is one of the most selfish and cowardly things you could do. Everyone has troubles in their life, it is no excuse to leave 2 young boys without a Father for the rest of their life. Sorry to disagree...it aint cowardly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Sorry to disagree...it aint cowardly! It is cowardly to back out of your troubles by taking your own life. It is even more selfish and cowardly when there are children involved. Those kids are never going to be the same again because of the actions of their father. Are you saying this is not a selfish and cowardly act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I must be the only person that had never heard of Gary Speed until the recent events! same here and im welsh ! yet not haveing the slightest bit of interest in football could be why ! my heart does goes out to his family and friends left behind..i do think it's a selfish act to carry out tho,,my best m8 took his life a few years ago..im still well gutted and miss him loads,,yet sooooo bl00dy angry with him still,for what he did and left behind.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Regardless of the fact he killed himself or why. I think that trying to kill yourself goes against the human nature and is very differcult to do if you weren't having a total mental breakdown moment.I have known of a couple of people who have managed to kill themselves and they have been an acumulation of time focused by an extream event to push them over the edge.It will probably come to light that there was something going on. I feel for the people he left behind,honestly that will be his real legacy,the damage to his children.He will mainly be remembered for his suicide.i don't follow football so I'd never heard of him,but I feel for his family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 ! yet not haveing the slightest bit of interest in football could be why ! Snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 It is cowardly to back out of your troubles by taking your own life. It is even more selfish and cowardly when there are children involved. Those kids are never going to be the same again because of the actions of their father. Are you saying this is not a selfish and cowardly act? I think selfish, and see why it can be seen as cowardly but it must take a lot of courage to tip the chair/pull the trigger/swallow the pills and take your own life.... You would have to be in the lowest of places and I find it hard to believe that a parent can't look at thier kids when things are down and get an instant uplift.... As has been said the legacy he leaves is the torment his kids will have everytime someone says "where's your dad" or "what does your dad do" Very, very sad ....it's one of those unanswerable questions - if you could take a suicide victim back from the dead and ask them did they REALLY want to be dead??? Give up thier kids/wife/family? No child should have to grow up missing either parents, if everything goes to plan every parent should meet thier grandchildren and hopefully great grandchildren, if you have done this count yourself lucky...if I get to meet my great grandkids I'll dance a jig as the grim reaper leads me away Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) I think selfish, and see why it can be seen as cowardly but it must take a lot of courage to tip the chair/pull the trigger/swallow the pills and take your own life.... You would have to be in the lowest of places and I find it hard to believe that a parent can't look at thier kids when things are down and get an instant uplift.... As has been said the legacy he leaves is the torment his kids will have everytime someone says "where's your dad" or "what does your dad do" Very, very sad ....it's one of those unanswerable questions - if you could take a suicide victim back from the dead and ask them did they REALLY want to be dead??? Give up thier kids/wife/family? No child should have to grow up missing either parents, if everything goes to plan every parent should meet thier grandchildren and hopefully great grandchildren, if you have done this count yourself lucky...if I get to meet my great grandkids I'll dance a jig as the grim reaper leads me away Regards, Gixer Good reply............ Edited November 29, 2011 by Muggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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