BRAD1927 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have been shooting clays everyday this week and have been so so, one of the guys suggested I remove the bead from the end of the barrel...... Well you can imagine my response, so just out of curiosity I did the evry act. I was told just concentrate on the clay but look down the gun as normal so I did. Now call it luck coincedence or whatever but my scores improved coniderably. Has anyone else tried this and what are your feelings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingphil Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I dont shoot with a bead and it works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I'm thinking about changing my bead. I currently have a bright red one on. I'm thinking about changing mine for a small basic brass one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I'm thinking about changing my bead. I currently have a bright red one on. I'm thinking about changing mine for a small basic brass one. Try without you will be suprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I've shot without for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yep, only as there's one on the gun and I haven't removed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Depends what you mean by 'use'. There is one on my gun, but I can't say that I notice it. My auto doesn't have one and it doesn't bother me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Try without you will be suprised I think I would have to have something in the threads just to keep the muck out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think I would have to have something in the threads just to keep the muck out. Ijust placed a small piece of tape over it for now but will now look for a blanking screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think I would have to have something in the threads just to keep the muck out. Screw a bead in. That'll keep the crud out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 not had a bead for 10+ years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think just a small brass bead is best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have a bead on my gun but couldn't tell you if its metal , plastic, screw in or whatever, Your eye should never go off the clay, providing the gun fits, your shoulder will put your cartridge onto the clay automatically.from Auntie. :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landyboy Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 i have 2 on my trap gun don't think it would make any difference if i had none or six as i dont look at em ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 often wondered what the lil brass ornament was on the end of my barrels was for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) I have a small red one on both Berettas, a small green one on the browning and a small brass one on the Miroku. I can't say they distract me, just keep me aware of where I'm pointing the gun, esspecially with the coloured luminous ones. Edited March 21, 2012 by cant hit rabbits 123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Shoting a shotgun is like a lot of other hand, eye coordination sports. The more you do the less you think about it and let yor subconscious take over. To get to this stage does take a lot of practise what ever your sport. It is such a shame that clay pigeon shooting is only there for a few to enjoy.. way too expensive for most working people to afford :-( atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have a easy hit sight on my lanber, its brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I was finding that I was aiming with the bead not the barrel/instinct and at the last minute referencing back to the bead and missing the clay, with the bead removed I now just point and look soley at the clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 A lot depends on how yo have your gun set up fit wise. If you choose a flatter sight picture then no bead will be harder to get on with, conversely it will suit those who choose to see more rib. There are plenty of good shots who use them and plenty that don't- give it a try and if it suits you then stick at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 A bead is there to check your set up in the dry mount. Except FITASC and OS, you can dry mount before every shot / pr if you wish. If the gun is mounted correctly, your eye is 3mm high on the back of the rib looking along and over the bead ( with your eye on the target). The aiming device then becomes the rib - you see where the gun is pointing because you can see the rib tapering away from you pointing towards the bottom of the pattern placement. The target is clearly above the rib in full sight, and the pattern rises slightly off the gun to the target in clear sight ( not barrel blotted or behind the bead). Aiming through the bead tends to make people look back at the bead momentarily just at the moment they assess the lead / sight picture. This causes them to slow the swing and even though they have just seen a correct forward allowance they miss behind. Looking at beads is one of the most common faults instructors encounter, and is usually the cause of gun stopping at the moment of fire. Raising the eye at the back of the gun by the 3mm or more allows you to ignore the bead and look past it at the target area. If you use this technique, you never see the bead in taking the shot - only when you check your eye alignment in the pre-shot dry mount. "Rib-aimers" tend to be amongst our best shots in the sport - and many don't have a bead as it serves no purpose to some-one whose gun fit and mount are perfect already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I've tried it with and without. Makes no difference to me I've put it back now, just so I don't lose it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Only have a bead as the gun looks better does not help shooting as you should not be looking at only at what your shooting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hi. Sorry to high jack thread. In response to claymam post. I am new to the game. So if you aim bang on a 5 inch black spot on a big white board when you shot hits it it will be slightly high? So your shot patten raisis? So if I am right you look at the clay and point just below the clay. Fire and the shot rise and the clay hits the centre of the patten? Am I right in what I have read in claymam post? Or wrong lol If I am right what causes the shot to rise? Is it from the recoil of the gun causing it? Sorry if I have got this all wrong am quite new to the sport Thanks Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Most guns are designed to put 70% of the pattern high. This enables you to point at, not cover up a Target to hit it. Basically you can keep the target in view whilst you pull the trigger. Steer away from shooting pattern plates as you can make them show whatever you want. Stick to straight going sways and incomers to work out where your gun shoots. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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