officerdibble777 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Iv'e been thinking about this,the plan is to use fighter jets,surface to air misiles,12000 personel and one huge mother of a ship to "protect"London from terrorist attacks during the olympic games.If it's going to be so dangerous should we really be having so many peopl put at risk? The risk not only comes from some wanna be terrorist but from what the government plans to do to protect everyone.Do they honestly plan to shoot down planes over inner London if some idiot tries to hijack a jumbo and threatens to fly it into the stadium,where do the expect the debris to fall ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I think the whole exercise comes under the heading of "deterrent", it is intended to deter anyone from having a go. Be honest, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Was listening to this on Jeremy Vine (BBC radio2) last week. Seems a bit ott having SAM's on the rooftops of Flats etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88b Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I think the whole exercise comes under the heading of "deterrent", it is intended to deter anyone from having a go. Be honest, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) The politicians will be worrying about their own safety/protection while sitting in their freebie seats more than that of the public and the athletes. Edited May 5, 2012 by Muggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 TBH, I sick of the Olympics already. They can blow it up as far as I'm concerned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 The politicians will be worrying about their own safety/protection while sitting in their freebie seats more than that of the public and the athletes. That is pretty simplistic. What they are really worried about is the negative political impact of a successful terrorist attack on the games. An successful air attack (which could be anything from a 747 to a microlight or paraglider carrying explosives), an IED that is emplaced and functions causing casualties or major damage/disruption or a shooter in one of the venues would be a success for the terrorist groups and a major blemish on UK prestige. This is what they are scared of. Rapier and HVM deployments in and around the M25 represent a very visual deterrent, on top of the less obvious ones posed by the armed police and military options that terrorist planners will know are in place. If it really comes down to it, a countered threat (even bringing down a hijacked passenger airliner) is 'better' than having the same aircraft hit a packed venue. Security on this scale is very cold-blooded and not a nice business, but when you are dealing with a stark choice between hundreds or thousands of dead and injured, normally utterly unpalatable options suddenly become very real indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 it's just getting ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antuk99 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Oooh what about health & safety I just hope that if anything does kick off our security forces are given a 007 licence RESPECT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 They need the missles after they hired a bunch of kids to do the rest of the security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattw Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Rapier and HVM deployments in and around the M25 represent a very visual deterrent, on top of the less obvious ones posed by the armed police and military options that terrorist planners will know are in place. Whilst I agree with the rest of your post, I dont think a visual deterrent of you will be killed has any impact on many of them. most of the terrorists realise it is a one way trip when they strap on a bomb of fly aircraft into something. TBH if an airline took off from LHR, or city airport, by the time it was over the games and they had realised what was going on, I doubt they would have time to react... its all a little too much for me, TBH, its a bit like they are saying the world is soooo dangerous we are going to need missiles to protect you... however after the games, you are once again *****D, carry on... I am just glad that invading iraq made the world so much safer... I for one will not be watching the games, will not be supporting them and will be staying as far from any of it as possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I think the whole exercise comes under the heading of "deterrent", it is intended to deter anyone from having a go. Be honest, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Absolutely right. That's why we've heard so much in the press about it, they want to show us that they are proactive and, heaven forbid, something does happen then they can say that they did as 'much as they could' to protect the games. It is a pretty big target though, I'm not sure I'd like to go myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g fletch Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 its the, what if, prepare for all eventualities, not to get caught with your trousers down, syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Whilst I agree with the rest of your post, I dont think a visual deterrent of you will be killed has any impact on many of them. most of the terrorists realise it is a one way trip when they strap on a bomb of fly aircraft into something. True, but their objective is not simply to die. They want to die whilst successfully executing an attack, so the presence of air defence units adds another layer of complexity to carrying it off, which may be enough of a deterrent to make them choose a less "high risk" (in terms of the likelihood of success) approach. Also bear in mind that the stranger security measures being undertaken could be counter to a direct, credible threat that we, the public, are not aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit_stu Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 So london is super high secruity with missles and boats and ground trooops.... what about the other big cities... wouldn't look good if they go and blow up manchester or somewhere similar while we all have our backs turned watching the shot put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) Its good, you can never have too much security, but the idea of hundreds of armed American service personnel on the streets of london is a bit OTT. the Yanks insisted on it and we said OK. Designated traffic lanes, another US insistance, rubber stamped despite the fact that it will grind traffic to a standstill. The Olympics will be a huge terrorists coup if they can pull off something. My guess is they will try. Its too tempting not to. Edited May 5, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Its good, you can never have too much security, but the idea of hundreds of armed American service personnel on the streets of london is a bit OTT. the Yanks insisted on it and we said OK. Designated traffic lanes, another US insistance, rubber stamped despite the fact that it will grind traffic to a standstill. The Olympics will be a huge terrorists coup if they can pull off something. My guess is they will try. Its too tempting not to. Where did you read about "hundreds of armed American service personnel on the streets of London", thats a new one to me. I also thought the "designated traffic lanes" was a requirement of the International Olympics Committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Where did you read about "hundreds of armed American service personnel on the streets of London", thats a new one to me. I also thought the "designated traffic lanes" was a requirement of the International Olympics Committee. Its a new one to me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Where did you read about "hundreds of armed American service personnel on the streets of London", thats a new one to me. I also thought the "designated traffic lanes" was a requirement of the International Olympics Committee. There's a bit about it here. http://www.infobarrel.com/Security_at_the_2012_Olympic_Games How credible the website is though is another matter. The fact is I doubt anybody will know the exact security details for the Olympics (apart from those implementing them). It would defeat the whole object of the exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I got that explosive laden hang-glider Sarge... not sure about the backstop though...where's Walfumstow gone?...it was there a minute ago... :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Where did you read about "hundreds of armed American service personnel on the streets of London", thats a new one to me. I also thought the "designated traffic lanes" was a requirement of the International Olympics Committee. You can be assured its true. The traffic lanes, you are correct, was a requirement of the IOC but the US has pushed it further than that insisting on complete road closures 24/7 and lots of other conditions. The US are very unhappy about it being held in London, they think London is full of radicals and extremists and its too big an opportunity for them. I just hope they are wrong but the more I think about it the more I think they might have a point Edited May 6, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I got that explosive laden hang-glider Sarge... not sure about the backstop though...where's Walfumstow gone?...it was there a minute ago... :unsure: Don't worry, nobodys going to miss Walthamstow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 someone snuck a fake bomb into one of the stadiums already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) think the americans have seen southall cant imagine why they are paranoid Edited May 6, 2012 by storme37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 think the americans have seen southall cant imagine why they are paranoid Huh :blink: A street full of Sikhs? When was was the last Sikh terrorist attack on the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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