cockercas Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 http://www.cats.org.uk/uploads/documents/cat_care_leaflets/EG10-Catsandthelaw.pdf just so some of the numptys on here can read this. the ones who like to spout the **** about the 250meters away from a house and it can be shot/ and a cats in the eyes of the law dont belong to people. goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 what about realy realy big black ones some guys round by me shoot cats.it ****** me right off i have told them what i would do if it was my pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 some *** hole in our neighbourhood shot a cat last week!! if i find out who it is he will have to bend over to break his barrel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) What a one sided load of tripe! Written by a flower sniffin' kitty pettin' corporate .....oh, nevermind.... It was full of "it is the belief" and "commonly thought" load of balls! Cat owners (the ones that usually smell of wee and only have thier cat to talk to) should be subject to the same laws as dog owners in my opinion. And a cat carrying a poult in its mouth dead is "lawful excuse" in my opinion. Regards, Gixer Edited June 7, 2012 by gixer1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 If the neighbours cat c**** on my lawn one more time causing a health hazard to my kids then there are going to be words, can't stand the pesky little things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I was actually faced with this "dilema" a few weeks ago when friend who knew that I did a bit of pest and vermin control phoned me. She said that she had a "feral cat" living under one of her sheds and it was constantly doing it's best to "get at her poultry, pet rabbits and guinnea pigs, etc. Could I come round and "deal with the situation" for her? I explained that "Feral Cats" were "new teritory" for me and as I didn't want to fall foul of the law and shoot someones pet "Tiddles" so I would like to talk to my firearms department first. (I needed to speak to them about a request to shoot any dogs that were "caught in the act of worrying sheep" for another farmer) I spoke to one of the "senior officers" in the Firearms Department and the outcome was that if we were sure that the cat was "feral" and that it was causing damage or being a threat to livestock I could legally shoot it, and that there was no legal guidelines as to what calibre of gun or rifle that should be used, as long as it was done "humanely". As it turned out I went to see the lady in question a couple of days later only to find out that the cat had found it's way into her house and got trapped in a small box room. She had donned a pair of welding gloves and a stick and somehow had managed to get hold of the cat, shut it in a "pet transporting box" and took it some 20 miles away and released it unharmed. Problem solved for her but had she just moved the "problem" on to someone elses door step? I don't know but I was happy as I really didn't fancy the problem of finding that I had shot someones pet moggy! However, if I was put in a situation where I was confident that a "Feral Cat" was causing a "real and definite threat to livestock" then I would go ahead and shoot it quickly and humanely and then bury the carcass without "bragging about it" or making it "public knowledge" that I had done the "what was necessary"! I personally believe that the problem arises in differentiating between a pet cat "doing what cats do" and a genuinely "feral cat"! Those that breed pheasants and other game birds and small livestock etc might well see things differently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Its what these were invented for On a sensible front there is a big difference between a feral cat and a pet one, I've shot the former not the latter and the one I had was huge. It was also miles from any houses and had oddly enough a mouth full of rape If near houses the odds are its a pet tiddles but it gets a bit grey when they are in a pen with poults then its best to use the implement above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 If someone did that to my cat they would find themselves at the business end of a similar implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 For the good of shooting PR I think cats are a no no...local papers etc would be only too keen to run with pet cat shot in face. As a cat owner I would find it pretty difficult if the keeper shot our cat and I think my wife would set fire to my gun cabinet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 On a sensible front there is a big difference between a feral cat and a pet one, I think this comment has hit the nail squarely on the head! It really is a matter of differentiating between a Fear Cat and someones Pet Cat", sometimes not an easy thing to decide, so I say "if in doubt err on the safe side" rather than chance finding yourself in a deep pile of the brown stuff! I am not condoning the shooting of cats in general! I am, when all is said and done a "pet lover" myself. However, if a genuinely "Feral Cat" is causing a problem with small livestock or poultry then the issue needs to be addressed just the same as if it were a fox causing a similar problem with livestock or poultry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 you can tell the difference Frenchie ferals tend to be larger and generally in poor condition compared to your domestic cat. Location has a fair bit to do with it if its a remote area miles from the nearest house then it stands a fair chance of being feral. One things for sure feral cats can be a serious issue to both wild ground nesting birds and released poults. They also aren't good for any cat owners either as they obviously aren't vaccinated or neutered so can pass disease onto your pets and also fight a considerable amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Cat owners (the ones that usually smell of wee and only have thier cat to talk to) Class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 the cat i mentioned was shot in a street in the middle of a town! i can agree that in the case of a feral cat attacking some ones feathered livestock away from a town i could understand the reasons for it being shot but some one illegally using a weapon in a built up area to kill some ones pet just for their own sick personal enjoyment is pure wrong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 As quite often happens on this forum, I find myself going against the grain. I like cats a lot and we've always had one or two. If someone killed one of mine for fun and I knew who they were I'd be paying them a visit I've no issue with genuinely feral cats who are causing a nuisance being shot. I would even go so far as to say that if one my own cats was killing pheasant poults and was caught in the act that a keeper would be justified in shooting it, even though I'd be gutted. But these threads, which crop up nearly every week contain an undercurrent from some members hinting at cruelty to domestic pets, for no other reason than they don't like cats. Don't like them? Fair enough Use that as an excuse to kill them without very good justification? I'll be the one calling the cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) I've come across a good few ferals over the years, the most vivid memory I have of one was as follows I had walked a hedge row and out jumps a rabbit, I gave it the good news with my 12 but unfortuanlty didn't quite do the deed so I rushed over to put it out of its misery and out of no where a rather large cat pounces on it, grabs it by the neck and done the off with it, I couldn't brlieve what I saw, the rabbit was a good size too, it ammused me for days! It was far larger than average and miles from any house I haven't the heart to shoot a cat, feral or not. I don't disagree with people shooting Feral cats for genuine reasons I just couldn't Edited June 8, 2012 by M.I.A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 What calibre is it for a goldfish again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) What calibre is it for a goldfish again? Min of .338 I believe, this is what I was told when I enquired about having them added to the conditions on a 223, apparently 223 is by far not enough gun for those pesky goldfish Edited June 8, 2012 by M.I.A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I have to say i don't like cats myself but if i found one injured i would take it to a vet or the RSPCA if i found someone was shooting the little blitters i would be happy to ring plod and let them know Any cruelty to animals is not excepted in my opinion. i know some kid that was shooting cats and pigeons with his airgun in peoples back gardens he was 14 classed as responsible by the police and his parents were fined £5000 by the courts and he has a ban on possesing firearms not sure for how long but GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Trouble is they'll bang on about a concave class bowl as an 'unsuitable' backstop! I'm writing to my MP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fo5ter Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I have to say i don't like cats myself but if i found one injured i would take it to a vet or the RSPCA if i found someone was shooting the little blitters i would be happy to ring plod and let them know Any cruelty to animals is not excepted in my opinion. i know some kid that was shooting cats and pigeons with his airgun in peoples back gardens he was 14 classed as responsible by the police and his parents were fined £5000 by the courts and he has a ban on possesing firearms not sure for how long but GOOD Is that to draw attention away from your profile pic? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 As quite often happens on this forum, I find myself going against the grain. I like cats a lot and we've always had one or two. If someone killed one of mine for fun and I knew who they were I'd be paying them a visit I've no issue with genuinely feral cats who are causing a nuisance being shot. I would even go so far as to say that if one my own cats was killing pheasant poults and was caught in the act that a keeper would be justified in shooting it, even though I'd be gutted. But these threads, which crop up nearly every week contain an undercurrent from some members hinting at cruelty to domestic pets, for no other reason than they don't like cats. Don't like them? Fair enough Use that as an excuse to kill them without very good justification? I'll be the one calling the cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 As quite often happens on this forum, I find myself going against the grain. I like cats a lot and we've always had one or two. If someone killed one of mine for fun and I knew who they were I'd be paying them a visit I've no issue with genuinely feral cats who are causing a nuisance being shot. I would even go so far as to say that if one my own cats was killing pheasant poults and was caught in the act that a keeper would be justified in shooting it, even though I'd be gutted. But these threads, which crop up nearly every week contain an undercurrent from some members hinting at cruelty to domestic pets, for no other reason than they don't like cats. Don't like them? Fair enough Use that as an excuse to kill them without very good justification? I'll be the one calling the cops I think you'll find it more likely that these threads contain an undercurrent of folk winding the cat lovers up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Shooting domestic cats is one of the best ways of getting bad publicity for shooting in general. Vets calling for bans on guns etc. the anti shooting brigade love to get their teeth into that sort of thing. Don't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Shooting domestic cats is one of the best ways of getting bad publicity for shooting in general. Vets calling for bans on guns etc. the anti shooting brigade love to get their teeth into that sort of thing. Don't do it Exactly well said. I for one do not really like cats, which is a personal thing although i would,nt harm one. I can't abide animal cruelty. Ferals are, as has been said a totaly different case. Difficulty though is identification. Remember though that this is an open forum and is open to prying eyes. Mods it may be an idea to remove this thread Cheers, ATB, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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