Rimfireboy Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Been doing some performance tests with high velocity .22's to see how they are suited to shorter barrels. Got some interesting results from the CCI stingers. The 32 grain bullets left my 14 inch barrel at an average velocity of 1641 fps (191.4 fpe) which was higher than I expected as I had read that the stingers keep accelerating for 23 inches of barrel. They certainly hadn't lost much speed in the 14 inch barrel though. Eley High Velocity Hollow Point were consistent and the most accurate with and average muzzle velocity of 1282 fps (146 fpe) from the 40 gran bullets. I achieved 3 shots touching at 110 yards, which was better than I expected from a H.V. .22 at that range. These were the most accurate of the four I tested. CCI Velocitors shot well from the Anshutz 64 with an average muzzle velocity of 1395 fps (172.8 fpe) with 1 1/2 inch group at 110 yards. Remington Yellow Jackets at 33 grains, left the muzzle at an average velocity of 1336 fps (131fpe) but grouping wasn't so good, as with the stingers, at 110 yards that I was shooting they struggled to better 2 inch groups, though it might well be my shooting. My conclusion is that high velocity .22's certainly seem to work well in shorter carbine barrels, with no noticable effect on power or accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Thanks for that:an interesting read.Although I rarely use HV,I have used Velocitors in my 16"CZ & found them surprisingly accurate,not so accurate with RWS & Stingers however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Nicely done, wish we could have had more pictures of the groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 i have tried stinger... did not group well at all rws....... grouped well but cant find them now winchester grouped a little better than stingers but not great velocitors grouped well and at 100 yards were bang on with my scope set at 50 yard zero with winnie subs so great just picked up some new cci quiets to try colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Nicely done, wish we could have had more pictures of the groups. That target was the eleys. I think I've still got the other targets, if so I'll take pictures and post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 i have tried stinger... did not group well at all rws....... grouped well but cant find them now winchester grouped a little better than stingers but not great velocitors grouped well and at 100 yards were bang on with my scope set at 50 yard zero with winnie subs so great just picked up some new cci quiets to try colin Let me know how you get on with the cci's Colin, I'll be interested to know what they're like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapperdan Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 i have tried stinger... did not group well at all rws....... grouped well but cant find them now winchester grouped a little better than stingers but not great velocitors grouped well and at 100 yards were bang on with my scope set at 50 yard zero with winnie subs so great just picked up some new cci quiets to try colin Ive had great results also with velociters MOA at the range. What gunshop did you find the cci quiets ? cheers Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Are the eleys uncoated lead? Don't like mixing copper coated with lead as seems to screw up accuracy! Would be interested to get hold of the Hv eleys, would like to know shot placement diff between std subs and the Hv eleys at 100 yards with a 60yd zero on subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 This is a coincidence, I was only having a conversation with a PW member tonight about 22 stingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Are the eleys uncoated lead? Don't like mixing copper coated with lead as seems to screw up accuracy! Would be interested to get hold of the Hv eleys, would like to know shot placement diff between std subs and the Hv eleys at 100 yards with a 60yd zero on subs With 55 yard zero for eley subs I got 3 inch drop with eley high velocity at 110 yards. No copper on the eley high velocity, just waxy like the subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verminator 66 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thanks for the info think I will get some to try used the winny stingers and remmy but not very good at all RWS + CCI Velocitors nearly picked then up to try for the price I thought the CCi segmented would have been the kiddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Nicely done, wish we could have had more pictures of the groups. Top left CCI Velocitor, top right Eley HV.HP. bottom right Rem Yellow Jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Top left CCI Velocitor, top right Eley HV.HP. bottom right Rem Yellow Jacket. What range were those groups shot at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 What range were those groups shot at? 110 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 110 yards I bought a box of cci Blazers at the Pheonix... they seem to be doing very nicely indeed but only tried them at 25 up to now.. My mate thrust a box of stingers in my hand and told me once I tried them I wouldn't go back.... time will tell but unlikely if they group poorly!!! Keep up the good work Rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Interesting post RFB, thanks. The Eley HV groupings are pretty darn good at that distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 My mate thrust a box of stingers in my hand and told me once I tried them I wouldn't go back.... ....for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Nice shootin'. Flys in the face of the na' sayers that think HV ammo is useless! I too have benefitted from using HV 22 ammo. Keep up the good work U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Let me know how you get on with the cci's Colin, I'll be interested to know what they're like am going to try them on monday so will post results then i picked them up from john eastaffs in sandy Beds he got 5000 in last week colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 checkout the cci web site the stingers start out at 191 ft lb at muzzle and at 100 yards are hitting with 81 ft lb the velocitors start out at 183 ft lb at muzzle and still have 104 ft lb at 100 yards which is more than most subs have at muzzle :good: colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 checkout the cci web site the stingers start out at 191 ft lb at muzzle and at 100 yards are hitting with 81 ft lb the velocitors start out at 183 ft lb at muzzle and still have 104 ft lb at 100 yards which is more than most subs have at muzzle :good: colin Yes, the velocitors are good. Certainly hit very hard for a .22 and accuracy is as good as you need. Better than stingers in my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 ....for more. very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Always interesting to read other peoples experiences, and once again this shows how individual barrel dependent results can be. Both my .22lr are dedicated sub tools these days, but, back when, I found the Stingers to be all over the shop, the Velocitors were acceptable, and did carry their energy well, and I used them quite a lot, but the best performers, accuracy wise, were the Rem Yellow HP. Interesting as some Remington subs I got recently to help run in my new .22lr Semi were without doubt the WORST bullet I have used for Many years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Worst bullet or worst performing in that gun? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Always interesting to read other peoples experiences, and once again this shows how individual barrel dependent results can be. When I changed my barrel I had to change my preferred ammo as the CCI subs just would not hold a group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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