alendil Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hi i work most of saturdays and after work i am able to go shuting think is its 40 miles drive so to get gun i will have to back home to pick up the gun (34miles) and pass next to my work place again.and then extra 40miles to shuting grounds. at work i can close bolt and ammo in small cash safe to wich only I have acces. and rifle can be put away in cabinet. Is ok to do that. thank You for any help and sorry for all gramar and speling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 You have to take "reasonable precautions" to keep your guns secure. Does anyone else have access to the cabinet? The bolt and ammo in the cashbox is a good idea but if others have access to the cabinet then the main gun should perhaps be kept somewhere else. Is the cabinet you speak of a gun cabinet? I'm just trying to get a picture of the sort of people you work with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hi i work most of saturdays and after work i am able to go shuting think is its 40 miles drive so to get gun i will have to back home to pick up the gun (34miles) and pass next to my work place again.and then extra 40miles to shuting grounds. at work i can close bolt and ammo in small cash safe to wich only I have acces. and rifle can be put away in cabinet. Is ok to do that. thank You for any help and sorry for all gramar and speling. If something happens you will have to prove all reasonable precautions were taken in court. same as stopping at services etc. There are times when we have to do such things. Can you keep essential parts like the bolt etc on your person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Cabinet its just normal cubby hole under the staircase behind counter area. Its outdoors shop and only person working with me is sensible (joining royal marines next feve months) bolt, mag and ammo is locked in safe.i am only one to have acces to safe ( i am assistant manager) My direct boss dont have safe key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Does the cabinet where the rifle will go lock, and are you the only one who will have a key? If your mate can access the cabinet, it doesn't matter how sensible he is, it's breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 how abbout if not cabinet but room wich is lockable and i will be with only key on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Cabinet its just normal cubby hole under the staircase behind counter area. Its outdoors shop and only person working with me is sensible (joining royal marines next feve months) bolt, mag and ammo is locked in safe.i am only one to have acces to safe ( i am assistant manager) My direct boss dont have safe key. Will your manager agree to you putting a lock on the door to the cupboard and maybe a bit of reinforcement to the frame. Then you can keep the key with you, would seem to be reasonable. Alternatively keep bolt and ammo with you and lock the rifle into the boot of your car, even have a gun safe bolted into the boot of your car or van. You can't escape your responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Tricky with a rifle, shotgun is easier. It is your responsibility to take reasonable precautions so only you. Can decide...... I often travel with shotgun and make my own arrangements, mostly leave barrels in car boot and tack action with me. With a rifle it's still a rifle even with no. Bolt. Napier do some security slips might be worth looking into if it's regular or a security device for the car is the shop a chain? Would boss let you put a cabinet in cupboard? Get a cheap 2 gun one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some good suggestions, pick one that suits and just do it. Mind you, isn't "sensible" and "joining the royal marines" a contradiction in terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Thank You for all suggestions. probably on top of that call to FLO is good idea . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 You can get gun safes designed for cars maybe an idea. As long as its not at risk of the whole vehicle being taken, and then a small box somewhere for the ammo and bolt inside your workplace maybe a better preposal than a full gun safe. I don't know what your workplaces insurance companies would say about the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Advisable to to get written permission from the manager to bring firearms onto the property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Imo, just leave it in your locked car. This constitutes reasonable precautions as only you have the key, its secure and chances are you can see it at work (no matter if not). some may disagree but if its ok to leave it in the boot when you go to pay for fuel etc then you're fine Now practical precautions such as storing ammo away from gun (perhaps glovebox) and bolt on your person is also sensible Would also recommend a decent trigger lock. For shotguns I've heard of barrel locks (think bore snake with padlock on each end. I think bringing into work us a bit risky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I would keep the bolt/mag/mod with you at all times and leave the gun in the car. I've only ever done this once with a shotgun - had to go to a meeting in Chester, knew one chap who was attending and asked if he'd mind if I brought a sleeved S/G in to the meeting - not a problem he said - he was a Chief Inspector of the licensing authority. Good really as having walked in with 2 slips, everyone at the meeting wanted to see the guns ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 i often take mine i leave the barrels in the car and the actions are in my work locker the place has cctv inside and out never had aproblem yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Some times i do or its a 30mile trip back,just dont say anything and park it in a secure or prominent place in the works carpark if they have such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I have a trigger lock, i use this in conjunction with a locked hard travel case, which is in its self locked to a strong point on the motor. I would also say keep the bolt on your person (those belt type bolt holsters are great) and ammunition on you too. Keep things in the car out of sight or covered, ect. For this reason BASC/PW car stickers are not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 The problem I have with all this keep it in the car stuff, is that cars get nicked all too frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 The problem I have with all this keep it in the car stuff, is that cars get nicked all too frequently. Modern cars are very hard to nick without the keys hence the rise in car jackings are thefts of keys from homes to get the cars... Depends on the car some are more secure than others the boot on the missus car is really quite secure, mine isn't particularly so I use a security slip. This I class as reasonable if the gun gets nicked or the car I hope the police agree I took all reasonable precautions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GRIFF Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I take mine to work with no problems, I leave mine in a secure room with a security coded door only I have access to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Contact your local FLO and if you're a member, the BASC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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