HDAV Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 OK so is 52g of BB/1 shot the biggest in a 3" cartridge? Only purpose would to be to put my cousin on his ****......... Fiocchi Magnum is the biggest i have found any bigger just for a laugh...or are there better ways to spend £15? OK there is a 53g Winchester but at almost £40 a box not bothered by the extra 1g for that tho...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 You could always put your tightest choke in to give that bit more recoil. Wouldnt recomend as we dont want to be putting folks of shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbank Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 For this 'limited' application, 50g BB/1 Saga carry a fair old kick and are quite cheap. To really enhance the shooting experience could let him try these through a 2 and 3/4 chambered O/U!!! :o Above suggestion withdrawn to comply with Health and Safety guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 For this 'limited' application, 50g BB/1 Saga carry a fair old kick and are quite cheap. To really enhance the shooting experience could let him try these through a 2 and 3/4 chambered O/U!!! :o Above suggestion withdrawn to comply with Health and Safety guidelines. Tidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Lol no he shoots and pretty well but has taken to being a bit macho and I want something to cut him down to size he's 6'4" and 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Full choke and 50g should work then. Failing that think zabala do a sxs that will fire both barrels at the sme time 100g would be interesting if you could borrow one. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Recoil energy into the shoulder is as much a factor of gun weight as load. try a heavy load through an old single with full choke. The belt is a lot harder than a heavy eight bore. If you want someone on thier back let thier feet sink into the mud stood astride then get then to shoot a goose, that tends to put me on my back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 56 gram turkey loads. They are loaded at 1350 fps or so. As said, single barrel full choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 the hardest dunt i have had from a gun was my single baikal cut down to 24" with an inch off the stock and a 53gram AAA, i thought my brains were going to run out my nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) 3 & 1/2" mag 66g through a nice lightweight gun. After checking the chamber will accomodate it of course. Thats the largest cart I have done. Not as bad as people made out but couldnt do 100 clays with them You could always stick two 42g in a D/T gun and wire the triggers I had a D/T O/U and had 2 36g carts in and when I pulled the front trigger the rear sear spring gave and ended up letting both barrels fly. I near crudded myself but it was funny looking back. Took months to find a new spring in the end had to get rid of the gun Edited July 18, 2012 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 LOL dont want to damage the gun as it will either be my OU or his dads semi.... I'll try a pick up a box of 53/53g BB next time i'm buying carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 3 & 1/2" mag 66g through a nice lightweight gun. After checking the chamber will accomodate it of course. Thats the largest cart I have done. Not as bad as people made out but couldnt do 100 clays with them You could always stick two 42g in a D/T gun and wire the triggers I had a D/T O/U and had 2 36g carts in and when I pulled the front trigger the rear sear spring gave and ended up letting both barrels fly. I near crudded myself but it was funny looking back. Took months to find a new spring in the end had to get rid of the gun In my last job I made bomb disposal robots and they were often armed with a shotgun so I had to find the worst case recoil for the mounting bracket and it was these 66g carts. I put them through my Maxus and although there was a lot of recoil it wasn't of bad. I wouldn't want to put them through an O/U though. I did aim at a flying crow with them thinking it was well out of range bu I dropped it dead in the air so they work well too! Bit expensive for pest control though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 was in the same situation as you about a year and half ago so simply put a 52g magnum fiochhi though an xf choke , the only prob was the lad did drop my gun! but fortunately i did catch it ! it pays to only put one in at a time :)the poor lad wasnt expecting that after his first shot was with a hull comp x lol gotta have a laugh. if you have an old shotgun you dont care much for barrel wise look up dragons breath on you tube... now thats funny :)a lot better than the old black powder gag... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 why on earth do people think choke gives more recoil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I've chugged through 50+ 50g #1's in less than 10 minutes and barely felt it, and i'm only 5'9" medium build! Save your money and make him shoot ANY 3" load weak shouldered, the poor/awkward mount will give him more of a jolt than any 'heavy' cartridge OR you could be a right **** and make him do a heavy cartridge weak shouldered . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 why on earth do people think choke gives more recoil? that and why do they treat guns like toys, this smacks of being a particularly stupid thing to do. were the person to drop it or react badly to the first shot there is a second one there waiting to go. These things are dangerous and need treating like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 why on earth do people think choke gives more recoil? are you saying it doesn't? i thought forcing cones also had an effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Over the years i have shot 1000s of 3 and 3.5 inch magnum shells and all this talk about recoil is pretty rubbish. In a 3 inch magnum load of 50 gr shot through a properly weighted and balanced gun normally you feel no more recoil than a standard 30 gr game load in a 2 3\4 inch gun. The only time I have felt any serious recoil has been when taking a directly over head shot with 56 gr and 1 9\16oz buffered magnum loads and even then not every time. The body does not have the "give " with an overhead shot. Normaly if you feel serious recoil it means you are not holding the gun correctly or the gun does not fit you. I think the worst recoil I ever had was shooting 28gr loads through a gun that did not fit me and resulted in bad brusing of my trigger finger. To talk of trying to give a mate a bad kick from a shell is very childish and potentaly dangerious. Guns are not for little boys to play with. Edited July 27, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Over the years i have shot 1000s of 3 and 3.5 inch magnum shells and all this talk about recoil is pretty rubbish. In a 3 inch magnum load of 50 gr shot through a properly weighted and balanced gun normally you feel no more recoil than a standard 30 gr game load in a 2 3\4 inch gun. The only time I have felt any serious recoil has been when taking a directly over head shot with 56 gr and 1 9\16oz buffered magnum loads and even then not every time. The body does not have the "give " with an overhead shot. Normaly if you feel serious recoil it means you are not holding the gun correctly or the gun does not fit you. I think the worst recoil I ever had was shooting 28gr loads through a gun that did not fit me and resulted in bad brusing of my trigger finger. To talk of trying to give a mate a bad kick from a shell is very childish and potentaly dangerious. Guns are not for little boys to play with. Agree with everything anser has said above. I use quite a few Remington 3.5" steel loads and never have a problem with recoil. Admittedly I wear fairly thick clothing when 'fowling but even with the odd dodgy mount I've never really felt much. I once used some Gamebore Black Gold 28g steel clay loads. Now they rattled my teeth. Horrible things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayslayer Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Comes down to newtons law i believe : for every action their is an equal and opersit reaction:= if you fire a heavy load at fast speed it kicks =if you fire a light load slow it does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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