shaun4860 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Grandmother has been arrested now I really cant understand what goes on in people's minds. She was her grandchild for gods sake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 its seems this case wont take long to solve, the fact he had lots of convictions and when he done a runner he got as far as a park and a bottle of vodka suggests this man is a bit thick. i doubt his excuses will stand up long also i bet theres been weirdness going on there for a while bet social services knew them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Next door neighbour dragged in too, assisting an offender. The proceedings just get stranger by the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 When these things happen it always seems to be the garden is all overgrown and the front wall is knocked down it just makes me think people that live like that are not to be trusted and quite why it took the police so long to find her body in a little house like that where could you hide it the only place is the loft. They searched the house thoroughly twice...they obviously brought the body back thinking they would not again. I suspect the police knew that granny and her Boyfriend were involved somewhere... God only knows what that poor child must have gone through. Dont worry about the death penalty...a few months in Prison and they will wish they had never been born anyway..someone will get to them and administer proper justice. What staggered me was when the press announced that the boyfriend had the right to be examined by a Doctor to see if he was fit to be questioned... Hes obviously not fit to breath... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Who would let him into their family? Think there all as bad as each other, he's all ready been with the mum. Oxygen thieves the lot of um. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 They searched the house thoroughly twice...they obviously brought the body back thinking they would not again. I suspect the police knew that granny and her Boyfriend were involved somewhere... God only knows what that poor child must have gone through. Dont worry about the death penalty...a few months in Prison and they will wish they had never been born anyway..someone will get to them and administer proper justice. What staggered me was when the press announced that the boyfriend had the right to be examined by a Doctor to see if he was fit to be questioned... Hes obviously not fit to breath... So let me get this straight after the police had searched the house with the police still guarding the house and this same house is surrounded by reporters and tv people the killers whoever it was managed to carry the body of a 12 year old girl back in to the house and concealed it up in the attic without being seen and people are saying that the killer was stupid it sounds more like he/she was a bloody magician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 So let me get this straight after the police had searched the house with the police still guarding the house and this same house is surrounded by reporters and tv people the killers whoever it was managed to carry the body of a 12 year old girl back in to the house and concealed it up in the attic without being seen and people are saying that the killer was stupid it sounds more like he/she was a bloody magician. That is why the neighbour has been arrested, think they might of moved it from loft to loft, as them kind of houses have access to other peoples loft space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 "You couldn't make it up", but at least you lot are having a damned good try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddywack12 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Doesn't surprise me.............she looked guilty too. Jeremy Kyle Fodder the lot of them. May they get all they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Jeremy Kyle Fodder the lot of them. May they get all they deserve. well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Nope. Why is it always these types? uneducated simpletons? They normally have a low IQ, or some sort of sexual inadequacy. All this stuff talk about criminals being very clever and quick witted makes me think its a mental issue rather than smartness. The average "normal" bloke wouldn't dream of doing something like this. That's my view anyway. Sorry but a Paedophile could be anybody whether their rich poor smart or dumb. RIP Tia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosemite Sam Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 RIP Tia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 The news coverage of previous convictions etc is not going to help the prosecution of the case. In any deprived area you are going to find a higher than average proportion of people with numerous convictions but it is for the courts to establish guilt, not the media (or an Internet forum for that matter). What happened to that poor kid is terrible and the person/people who did it are scum who deserve everything they get and probably more. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Sorry but a Paedophile could be anybody whether their rich poor smart or dumb. RIP Tia. There has been no suggestion anywhere of paedophilia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Such a shame and a waste of a young life. Who knows what went on, and how the poor soul met her end. It is sad, but I feel it really emphasises the need for a stable, loving family. The words 'grandmother's boyfriend' put together demonstrate the issue, in my opinion, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 The boyfriend now charged. Gran and neighbour bailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Sorry but a Paedophile could be anybody whether their rich poor smart or dumb. RIP Tia. I do agree with you there from what I have herd about these people some of them not all but some can seem to be really nice people take Fred West he was a builder and may well have been very good at his job and no doubt some of the people that he did work for was very happy with his work and thought that he was a nice chap except when he was not working his hobby was killing young people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Very sad for the poor girl. It looks bad that he was suspected and disappeared, but I'll await further information before Playing judge and jury. The worst thing is that she appeared to have been born into a simply terrible family and had no way out. born into a simply terrible family and had no way out. Its a heartbreaking story for the little girl but isnt this what social services are for ? Is this a case of everybody knowing about a problem and nobody doing anything ? If so, just as bad as the killer IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Please don't drag this thread down that route. Why ? Its a valid comment. I cant figure out why, if found "bang to rights", we should pay a fortune to imprison somebody for the rest of their lives when there is NO CHANCE they will ever be a useful, contibuting part of society........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 They searched the house thoroughly twice...they obviously brought the body back thinking they would not again. I suspect the police knew that granny and her Boyfriend were involved somewhere... God only knows what that poor child must have gone through. Dont worry about the death penalty...a few months in Prison and they will wish they had never been born anyway..someone will get to them and administer proper justice. What staggered me was when the press announced that the boyfriend had the right to be examined by a Doctor to see if he was fit to be questioned... Hes obviously not fit to breath... a few months in Prison and they will wish they had never been born anyway..someone will get to them and administer proper justice. Want a bet ? If there's sexual offences involved they'll be locked up in a nice secure nonces wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I have had a number of dealings with social services and have generally found them to be very professional but extremely overworked. Individuals carry huge responsibility for the most vulnerable in our society but are given little or no time to deal with the problems and even less money to help. They are damned if they act too soon, being accused of doing so without justification, and damned if they leave it too late and a child or other vulnerable person is abused, neglected or murdered. When their actions and decisions are judged after something like this happens, 20/20 hindsight offers a clarity not apparent at the time. It is a job that I could not do. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I have had a number of dealings with social services and have generally found them to be very professional but extremely overworked. Individuals carry huge responsibility for the most vulnerable in our society but are given little or no time to deal with the problems and even less money to help. They are damned if they act too soon, being accused of doing so without justification, and damned if they leave it too late and a child or other vulnerable person is abused, neglected or murdered. When their actions and decisions are judged after something like this happens, 20/20 hindsight offers a clarity not apparent at the time. It is a job that I could not do. Nick Have to agree entirely.Damned if they do,damned if they don't.I've no doubt the Social servises are just as capable of errors of judgement and incompetence as the rest of us,which is all part of being human unfortunately,but just think how some of these people must feel,many of whom have children of their own,who go home at night thinking 'if only I'd done this' or 'if only I'd done that'.We're all qualified in hindsight.Not an envious occupation at all in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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