mossy835 Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 just come back from the gun shop, and the gun smith said that you cant shoot pigeons on stubble any more, is this right , iv not heard of this new law.have you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaffman73 Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 just come back from the gun shop, and the gun smith said that you cant shoot pigeons on stubble any more, is this right , iv not heard of this new law.have you. What would be your reason for shooting the pigeons , if they are just eating the dropped seeds after the harvest ? As long as you have good reason to do so there's nothing wrong about it . Just prove you have a good reason to do so before you next go out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I suppose a good enough reason was "I saw this and other woodpigeon eating rape/kale/laid cereal earlier and tracked them down to this field so I decided to stop their theiving ways for once and for all.............Officer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 you have not got a good reason to shoot pigeons on stubble, so why do every one do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Should have said shame as i was looking for buying 1000 shells to stop them and see what he said .Hows folk like that got a bussiness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Can't blame the messenger for putting you right, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 What about roost shooting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 dont know i just put up what i was told, if you roost shoot the birds are doing no damage,but i love roost shooting same as a lot of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 You sure the gunshop wasn't being burgled at the time by some antis and you inadvertently interrupted the robbery? Next time you are down there, pick up some humus and get a leaflet on the yoga classes they are running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 One of many "grey areas" concerning the General Licence. I will shoot on stubbles, until someone is prosecuted for doing so and the Police firmly enforce the tested law. Its no different than shooting over set-a-side, roost shooting. sitting under flight lines, shooting pigeons when walking round woods etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 If you think about it, shooting pigeon over a crop (not a stubble after harvest) you only really stop them feeding there while you are there. If you hit them hard they will be wary and move away, but they will probably be there the next day if you (or someone else) isn't. So, thinking about it you shoot pigeon to thin the population and try and warn them off, if you have less pigeon and they got hit hard then you are protecting crops. If one of the fields happens to be stubble then you shoot there, pulling the birds off the un-harvested crops therefore protecting them. The general licence is specific about what you can't and can't do, the question you have to ask your self is "would I be happy with my reasons if challenged?". Nowhere in the general licence does it say "sport". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I will continue to shoot on on stubble and for that matter land that is mine until I get a jail sentence. If I get released for good behaviour I would then go back and do exactly the same. This is England not some pissy foriegn land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 You sure the gunshop wasn't being burgled at the time by some antis and you inadvertently interrupted the robbery? Next time you are down there, pick up some humus and get a leaflet on the yoga classes they are running. you can only shoot pigeons to protect crops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 You sure the gunshop wasn't being burgled at the time by some antis and you inadvertently interrupted the robbery? Next time you are down there, pick up some humus and get a leaflet on the yoga classes they are running. you can only shoot pigeons to protect crops. *********, what does that mean. You are taking things too literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I will continue to shoot on on stubble and for that matter land that is mine until I get a jail sentence. If I get released for good behaviour I would then go back and do exactly the same. This is England not some pissy foriegn land. Only playing devils advocate mate, don't shoot the messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 you can only shoot pigeons to protect crops. There is no argument to that statement. The reality is, that its a very difficult statement to be specific about. If the pigeon is flying towards a field of crops, can you shoot it ? If its sitting in the field of crops, but has not eaten, or damaged any, can you shoot it ? If its sitting in trees surrounding a field of crops, can you shoot it ? It is a ridiculous situation to try to enforce and so the Authorities don't. Until some idiot starts shooting wood pigeons in their garden, in the middle of a housing estate in Hackney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 dont go picking on me i was only told this,i will still go on shooting pigeons in the fields think someone got hold of the wrong end of the stick here. wait for it. I will continue to shoot on on stubble and for that matter land that is mine until I get a jail sentence. If I get released for good behaviour I would then go back and do exactly the same. This is England not some pissy foriegn land. this is a nanny state. Only playing devils advocate mate, don't shoot the messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 There was a similar test case in court a few years ago. A guy was prosecuted for shooting starlings in his back garden, this was when they were on the general liscense. He was baiting them onto his lawn with bread before shooting them with his air rifle. He was found guilty. Can you see the similarities between this and shooting woodpigeon which you have decoyed onto a stubble field or setaside field? I hope it never does go to a test case in court but I for one would be not 100% certain of a positive outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I agree: we should act with caution and impose rules on ourselves or risk being banned from shooting pigeons altogether. But ill continue to shoot them on stubble until that day comes. (If only I had the opportunity to some decent permissions that actually grew crops ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag-man Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Can't I keep all 200 to eat............aint no law against shooting em to eat, or shooting em commercially for the game dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 There was a similar test case in court a few years ago. He was baiting them onto his lawn Can you see the similarities between this and shooting woodpigeon which you have decoyed onto a stubble field or setaside field? Frankly no I can`t unless you are baiting a field with cereal etc. I can`t wait for the first case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 There was a similar test case in court a few years ago. He was baiting them onto his lawn Can you see the similarities between this and shooting woodpigeon which you have decoyed onto a stubble field or setaside field? Frankly no I can`t unless you are baiting a field with cereal etc. I can`t wait for the first case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Don't play roulette Pin when you don't know the stakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wol the hunter Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 i was confronted last year whilst shooting over stubble.this bloke in his late 40~s said his bit wich i listend to untill 3 pigeons came right in BANG BANG hit one,.i just looked at him and told him to **** of because he was tresspassing. i have zero time for do gooders,and my farmer has told me right from my very first time on his 2000 acres if i am confronted by any antis,do gooders,etc i must escort them of or call plod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Don't play roulette Pin when you don't know the stakes. Care to elaborate on that? PM if you like, I think you might be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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