Vince Green Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I think a lot of the non lethal (less lethal?) stuff contains plastic shot or rubber balls rather than lead but its still got to bring somebody down pretty much instantly or there is not much point shooting them with it in the first place. Its just political correctness but with the US police's habit of shooting innocent bystanders or each other its probably all to the good. Edited December 12, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) non leathals must be varied may have to youtube them Edited December 12, 2012 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) He has just hit me with another beauty. His other cousin, jimmy, was a silver service waiter and was poached by MI5 to run the liverpool branch. His job was to tell people in secret what benefits they entitled to. I really need to make sure i cant get in trouble filming this guy haha Edited December 14, 2012 by MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 He isn't your union rep is he MM they are usually this sort of type...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 He isn't your union rep is he MM they are usually this sort of type...... No mate, thats me haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Go on,film him-it would be illegal not to share his exploits with the rest of humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 my guy dropped another bombshell...he said he went to the dentist this week and blanked out, he came round after he had choked the dentist out as it took him back to when he had been kidnapped by bosnian rebels...im realing him in and on new years eve im gonna let him have it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibspoon Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I work with an ex T.A. Signals lad, who got attached to an SF signals unit, who were attached to 22....will he shut up about it ever?! No. Fair play, he did a bit with the TA, but he goes on about Hereford like he founded the place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I have one here. His "mate" (It's always their mate isn't it?) still does "Special protection" work and has a Glock Pistol wif no safety cacth and you have to pull it twice to make it go off and whatsthe other one hes got he showed me and said not to tell anyone, err, erm is it a Desert Eagle innit. Yeah well he showed them me dinne and he works in Iraq like and it's all dead secret. So secret he tells you and shows you his pistols Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) I work with an ex T.A. Signals lad, who got attached to an SF signals unit, who were attached to 22....will he shut up about it ever?! No. Fair play, he did a bit with the TA, but he goes on about Hereford like he founded the place! Attached as what? An oporator? Ask him what squadron and detachment he was at. Also the TA. SAS signals support the TA SAS, the regular SAS have a regular signals unit (264 squadron) attached to them, (after passing a course) not a TA unit. Edited December 15, 2012 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 So now that it's been very clearly established that there are 'shotty shells' with darts inside them, does he still qualify as a walt - or have you shot yourself in the foot so to speak? was just thinking the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) I vaguely remember the Flechette rounds from a tv program years ago...they were hard to detect medically as mentioned and were originally designed to defeat Kevlar weave as used in the first flexible body armour vests....think it was a French design...sneaky bar stools, but think it was originally designed as a shrapnel round from artillery....shotgun would be a good delivery system though Edited December 15, 2012 by PWD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I vaguely remember the Flechette rounds from a tv program years ago...they were hard to detect medically as mentioned and were originally designed to defeat Kevlar weave as used in the first flexible body armour vests....think it was a French design...sneaky bar stools, but think it was originally designed as a shrapnel round from artillery....shotgun would be a good delivery system though did they dip them in imobilising poison first, and only allow the british sas to use them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Doubt a poison would work as it would burn off during the firing process....would have to be an air powered delivery. Your mate sounds a fantasist maybe, after the Embassy siege there was lots of speculation in the press the SAS had specialist secret weapon as witnesses said the bodies had lots of small holes in them ......we now call these 9mm bullet holes...hardly cutting edge. The French would probably have sold them to anyone who would use them against the British...like they did with the Exocet...I would imagine an SAS trooper would prefer to see his opponent stone dead and not spend 10 minutes listening to him screaming aloud and running around like a headless chicken looking for an antidote...My Brother In law has had access to new and unique weapons...and he is only a range officer in the Air cadets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperCWF Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) Attached as what? An oporator? Ask him what squadron and detachment he was at. Also the TA. SAS signals support the TA SAS, the regular SAS have a regular signals unit (264 squadron) attached to them, (after passing a course) not a TA unit. This is correct, but from what I recall, the there was/is also 63 SAS® Signals, but I think they work alongside the TA SAS units 21 & 23, rather than 22. Dunno if 63 signals do the TA version of "selection" like 21 & 23 though. Edited December 16, 2012 by SniperCWF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperCWF Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Dispatches and other programs use undercover camera footage and broadcast without consent...............although they probably have many expensive lawyers, just in case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Attached as what? An oporator? Ask him what squadron and detachment he was at. Also the TA. SAS signals support the TA SAS, the regular SAS have a regular signals unit (264 squadron) attached to them, (after passing a course) not a TA unit. You do, of course, realise that "they" will now be around to "silence" you having revealed this information. I speak knowlegeably as an ex cadet corporal in the CCF (1968 vintage) where I learned much that, even now, I could not possibly divulge. Unless you wish to buy me a beer or two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 This is correct, but from what I recall, the there was/is also 63 SAS® Signals, but I think they work alongside the TA SAS units 21 & 23, rather than 22. Dunno if 63 signals do the TA version of "selection" like 21 & 23 though. Correct, 63 do the TA SF communicators course, not TA selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Thing is...why would you want to be in the SAS ..got to be a hard life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Thing is...why would you want to be in the SAS ..got to be a hard life Because they get to blow **** up i expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Thing is...why would you want to be in the SAS ..got to be a hard life No harder than any other young squaddie being constantly shot at and targeted by IED's I wouldn't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Thing is...why would you want to be in the SAS ..got to be a hard life A sense of achievement.Knowing you have reached the pinnacle of your chosen career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 And A sense of achievement.Knowing you have reached the pinnacle of your chosen career. And then locked up and shafted by your employer for something minor you forgot....fullest admiration for them all inc squaddies but they sacrifice a lot for such little real reward ...legs blown off £30K pay out..teacher gets punched by an angry mum...£75K . We owe them so much more than we give them surprised anyone turns up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Thing is...why would you want to be in the SAS ..got to be a hard life For the dahsing 'tache and Timberland boots obviously (and the book deals, got to think about retirement plans). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katash Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 If you do film him just use video editing software to obscure his face and put a disclaimer that it is 'to protect his identity' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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