Gun related accidents.

[sixhills 69]

I was on a vehicle check point in Keady in 1987 vehicle drove up passsenger fired a 22 semi auto pistol i got hit in the left leg just above my knee, bullet hit the bone and changed direction and stopped in my hip im not to good at walking now. carn't get much more gun related incident than that

Edited January 16, 2013 by sixhills 69

[JonathanL]

dont intend getting a REM 700 mate,go pick on someone else!

 

The point isn't Remington 700's particularly. I mentioned it to prove a point of how dangerous what you are doing can be.

 

Google it.

 

Actually, don't because Google are anti-gun. Bing it.

 

J.

[hedd-wyn]

Some stats on gun related accidents in the UK would be interesting if anyone could help?

[gemini52]

saw a young lad of about 12 or 13 trapping at a clay club in the 80's lean over the trap and set it off hitting him square on the forehead, sparked out with a cut right across his forehead down to the skull.

I used to go to a shoot in a small wood on the wirral,they were just basic hand traps that were used,young lads were paid a few quid to operate them one sunday one of them was messing about with his mate and some how he put his head in front of the trap,it went off hit him in the face from about two feet away,it split his eye in two,not a pleasant sight to see,he was rushed to hospital for treatment,not to sure how he got on but was told later he did manage to save the eye but had reduced vision in it,the health and safety people shut the shoot down,i often wounder how the young lad has since got on.

[CoolhandMal]

 

 

The point isn't Remington 700's particularly. I mentioned it to prove a point of how dangerous what you are doing can be.

 

Google it.

 

Actually, don't because Google are anti-gun. Bing it.

 

J.

but I don't walk around all day with the gun cocked ready to discharge like someone out of Dads Army lol,I cock it when the time is right,quickly test the safety (as previously stated)whilst waiting for the dogs to bolt the quarry,when the dust has settled I simply break the barrel and put gun over my arm,Maybe I should have mentioned this fact in my previous reply,Cheers

 

ATB

[bedwards1966]

but I don't walk around all day with the gun cocked ready to discharge like someone out of Dads Army lol,I cock it when the time is right,quickly test the safety (as previously stated)whilst waiting for the dogs to bolt the quarry,when the dust has settled I simply break the barrel and put gun over my arm,Maybe I should have mentioned this fact in my previous reply,Cheers

 

ATB

 

 

So while the dogs are doing their stuff you will point your gun in a direction where it would be unsafe for it to fire, because you are satisfied that it didn't go bang when you test pulled the trigger?

Why not let the dogs do their work, and when you need to fire close the gun as you bring it up to your shoulder - it's as quick and easy, and it is not going to lead to an accident.

[JonathanL]

but I don't walk around all day with the gun cocked ready to discharge like someone out of Dads Army lol,I cock it when the time is right,quickly test the safety (as previously stated)whilst waiting for the dogs to bolt the quarry,when the dust has settled I simply break the barrel and put gun over my arm,Maybe I should have mentioned this fact in my previous reply,Cheers

 

ATB

 

You obviously still haven't read about the problem with Remingtons.

 

J.

[CoolhandMal]

 

 

 

So while the dogs are doing their stuff you will point your gun in a direction where it would be unsafe for it to fire, because you are satisfied that it didn't go bang when you test pulled the trigger?YES,YES YOUR RIGHT MATE,WHILST I WAIT FOR THE SIGNAL FROM THE DOGS I POINT MY GUN WITH THE SAFETY ON AND AT THE NEAREST OBJECT/PERSON HOPING IT WILL GO BANG AND CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE OR INJURY!!!...IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR....NOW HOW DO YOU FEEL?

THE MORAL OF THE STORY....DONT AT ANY TIME DROP OR BUMP YOUR GUN WITH SAFETY ON...IT COULD GO BANG ON ITS OWN AND COULD BE FATAL OR CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY....SAFTEY CATCHES ARE A SALES GIMMICK....WHO INVENTED THEM?WHAT A DANGEROUS IDEA,WHY DIDN'T THE SAFETY MECHANISMS COME WITH A SAFETY DATA SHEET IMO MOST SHOOTERS ARE SELF TAUGHT ARN,T THEY?OH I FORGOT,YOU HAVE A UNIVERSITY HONOURS DEGREE IN GUN SAFETY.

Why not let the dogs do their work, and when you need to fire close the gun as you bring it up to your shoulder - it's as quick and easy,

and it is not going to lead to an accident.

ERH..HMM...SO YOUR GUN COULDNT POSSIBLY MIS-FIRE WHEN RAISING AND CLOSING THE GUN IN ONE MOTION AND POSSIBLY HIT SOMETHING/ONE?AFTERALL WHO KNOWS WHEN GUNS CAN GO OFF ON THEIR OWN(according to some smart Alec's recent posting.....better get my hard hat back on lol)SO DONT TRY AND TELL ME HOW TO SUCK EGGS MATEY,THIS ADULECENT INCIDENT YOU ARE RELATING TO TOOK PLACE OVER 35YRS AGO AND IT HAPPENED AS MENTIONED ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT AND HAVING EXPERIENCED WHAT I DID I IMMEDIATELY LEARNT FROM IT AND GOT INTO THE HABBIT OF PUTTING THE SAFETY ON AT ALL TIMES WITH GUNS POINTED AT THE GROUND WHEN WORKING AN AREA SO,WHAT I DO WORKS VERY WELL AND HAS DONE FOR THE LAST 35YRS OR SO,IMO IF ITS NOT BROKE WHY FIX IT.

 

EAR PLUGS AND HARD HAT AT THE READY!!

ATB

 

 

 

 

[bedwards1966]

It's time you stopped being silly. Safety catches can fail, fact. Just because you tried it by pulling the trigger does not guarantee it can't go off.

A loaded gun should never be pointed in an unsafe direction, thinking that a safety catch permits this is sheer stupidity.

 

Just because you may have somehow survived the last 35 years of shooting dangerously does not mean you won't have an accident or that you know what you are doing.

A little bit of thought - muzzle awareness and making a gun safe - prevents accidents. As a safety catch can fail there is little point to them, there is a high risk of people such as yourself thinking that they somehow make a gun safe, when if they weren't fitted you would hopefully manage to recognize a loaded gun as potentially dangerous.

 

If you can't take this and want to ignore it with your earplugs, go ahead. But please don't ever shoot near anybody else where pellets or bullets could hit someone, as your approach is dangerous.

[jgguinness]

I've heard of a few. A young lad at the clay club I occasionally go to, single barrel competition, lad (around 13ish I would say) shot, missed, placed gun on foot, forgot that he had put two carts in, and for some reason decided to pull the trigger!! Nice hole in between big toe and second one in! Air lifted to hospital!

 

At a large clay day in an nice fancy estate not too far from me, guy finishes his stand, puts gun back into slip, again, pulls trigger for some reason, blows the bottom out of the slip and shoots a woman standing next to him in the foot!

 

Kind regards

Jonathan

[aris]

I've heard of a few. A young lad at the clay club I occasionally go to, single barrel competition, lad (around 13ish I would say) shot, missed, placed gun on foot, forgot that he had put two carts in, and for some reason decided to pull the trigger!! Nice hole in between big toe and second one in! Air lifted to hospital!

 

At a large clay day in an nice fancy estate not too far from me, guy finishes his stand, puts gun back into slip, again, pulls trigger for some reason, blows the bottom out of the slip and shoots a woman standing next to him in the foot!

 

Kind regards

Jonathan

 

Now I know why my instructor ****s on me when I don't break the shotgun immediately after taking my shots!

[cockercas]

 

i agree. i never use a safety catch because they are pointless and dangerous.

So im not the only one.

I remember when we was kids. Me and my mate was sat in a dyke shooting pigeons.

We had one gun between us shearing. I shot a pigeon, put in another cartridge and put the safety on. Passed it over to my mate. He was resting it between his legs on his **** with the barrels pointing skywards.

BANG my mates laid in the bottom of the dyke in agony. His balls taking the reciol from a 12 bore.

For some reason he pulled the trigger. Safety had failed.

[beeredup]

So im not the only one.

I remember when we was kids. Me and my mate was sat in a dyke shooting pigeons.

We had one gun between us shearing. I shot a pigeon, put in another cartridge and put the safety on. Passed it over to my mate. He was resting it between his legs on his **** with the barrels pointing skywards.

BANG my mates laid in the bottom of the dyke in agony. His balls taking the reciol from a 12 bore.

For some reason he pulled the trigger. Safety had failed.

 

OUCH my eyes watered just reading that lol lesson learnt for your mate once i plums werent swollen to the size of water melons

[Pole Star]

Some of these post on here regarding saftey catches beg belief ! half a brain should tell any one about the muzzle end ! but the saftey catch was put on there for a good reason !

[neil3728]

I never use my safety catch as the gun is only loaded at a stand when I'm ready to shoot (atm I only shoot clays)

 

The number of times i've gone to shoot only to find i've put the safety on by mistake is amazing, also makes you look really cleaver when people are watching.

 

If I have been able to knock the safety on and not notice it must be easy to knock it off by mistake aswell.

[cockercas]

Some of these post on here regarding saftey catches beg belief ! half a brain should tell any one about the muzzle end ! but the saftey catch was put on there for a good reason !

Why? They fail. Have you ever had one fail?

Muzzle awereness is much more important.

Talking rifles here.

My shotgun is diffrent. Still dont trust it but its on safe untill i mount.

Sliding the safety off is part of my mount.

Edited January 18, 2013 by cockercas

[CoolhandMal]

It's time you stopped being silly. Safety catches can fail, fact. Just because you tried it by pulling the trigger does not guarantee it can't go off.

A loaded gun should never be pointed in an unsafe direction, thinking that a safety catch permits this is sheer stupidity.

 

Just because you may have somehow survived the last 35 years of shooting dangerously does not mean you won't have an accident or that you know what you are doing.

A little bit of thought - muzzle awareness and making a gun safe - prevents accidents. As a safety catch can fail there is little point to them, there is a high risk of people such as yourself thinking that they somehow make a gun safe, when if they weren't fitted you would hopefully manage to recognize a loaded gun as potentially dangerous.

 

If you can't take this and want to ignore it with your earplugs, go ahead. But please don't ever shoot near anybody else where pellets or bullets could hit someone, as your approach is dangerous.

Again you avoid my point and continue to throw humbug comments in my direction,now dont continue to be stupid and read what I have posted fully and properly before writing rediculous insults back....are you a politician by any chance?as you seem not answer the questions put to you but just want to feel the need avoid half the post and criticise.If you feel the need to reply please be sensible about it and try and firstly answer my previous post fully as I have done so with yours.

ATB

[Thunderbird]

Now I know why my instructor ****s on me when I don't break the shotgun immediately after taking my shots!

 

So he should too matey! No offence but that is an incredibly dangerous habit and my advice is don't let yourself get into it. Habits are hard to break once established.

[scolopax]

shot a farmer once many years ago. bit embarassing at the time!

 

Harvesting a field of beans and a few of us were waiting for rabbits to bolt, a fox was seen and the farmer got on top of the combine to spot whilst his son continued to drive it. Rabbit bolted at an angle away from the combine, I shot at it and missed. Next thing I could clearly hear said farmer swearing at me above the noise of the combine!

 

He climbed down from the top of the combine and marched across to me before showing me a blood speck on his forearm, to prove the point he then squeezed out a a single piece of #6 shot from the hole in his arm! I was mortified at this point. The shot must have bounced off a flint and deflected at a sharp angle to hit him 60 odd yards away!

 

He must have been accepting that this was a genuine accident as I still shoot there twenty odd years later.

[cooooper1]

went out lamping one evening with my mate doing the lamping and me with my .22 rifle,on the night the farmer wanted to come and try his luck with his new 12g,(told him its to noisy)

was`nt fussy on him coming but it was his land, night started good couple of quick rabbits then we seen this rabbit half ways up the field so i shot him, as i was walking up to him the rabbit jumped up (clearly did`nt hit him)and legged it straight back down the lamp, next think BANG the farmer shot at the rabbit which was only about 10---20 metres from me half the shot in the rabbit half in my leg,the shot went straight through my jeans and lucky only 3 bullets hit my leg,no real damage just a little blood. told the farmer what to do with his land.

[Browning 425 clay hunter]

It's quite simple really. Never point a loaded gun at anything you don't want to kill. Safety or no safety, guns should be broken at all times until your ready to pull the trigger.

 

People placing loaded guns on their feet or some of the other examples on here are pure stupidity.

 

Just my opinion

 

ATB 425

[aris]

It's quite simple really. Never point a loaded gun at anything you don't want to kill. Safety or no safety, guns should be broken at all times until your ready to pull the trigger.

 

People placing loaded guns on their feet or some of the other examples on here are pure stupidity.

 

Just my opinion

 

ATB 425

 

You should not point a gun - loaded or not - at anything you don't want to kill. From the sounds of things in this thread, people are having shooting accidents with "unloaded guns".

[cooooper1]

You should not point a gun - loaded or not - at anything you don't want to kill. From the sounds of things in this thread, people are having shooting accidents with "unloaded guns".

 

lol,

[bedwards1966]

Again you avoid my point and continue to throw humbug comments in my direction,now dont continue to be stupid and read what I have posted fully and properly before writing rediculous insults back....are you a politician by any chance?as you seem not answer the questions put to you but just want to feel the need avoid half the post and criticise.If you feel the need to reply please be sensible about it and try and firstly answer my previous post fully as I have done so with yours.

ATB

 

I'm very sorry if I missed something, I do struggle with capital letters in solid lumps of text. If there is anything I have missed in your post, please tell me what it is in a readable format and I will try to answer it.

[-Mongrel-]

At my local clay ground I see people who will quite happily shoulder their gun to 'practice/warm up' their swing in the car park. It truly frightens me that they MAKE ME trust them in such a way that they are happy to wave a gun around and I should just assume its not loaded.

 

Your ground needs to tighten it's Safety Marshalling/rules. If you did that at my local ground (Northall CPC) I can pretty much guarantee you would get a very loud and very public rollicking. Only time a gun's closed outside the cage, it's in a slip or you are with an instructor.