buggs Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Yesterday I was shooting with the above and found 90% (not the exact math but good enough for purpose) of my kills I got with the full , I was using elegy high flyers 30g 6's a long favourite of mine but they seem to work so much better on full does anyone know why this would be or worth getting another full choke lol when I use them through my rizzini performance seemed the same that's really why I'm asking, any ideas would be great thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 i always use full and 3/4 choke when on the pigeons , keeps me happy but not the pigeons, a lot of people use 1/2 and 1/2 which is fine but not my preffered choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 imp cyl & 1/4........does for me, decoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 The tighter the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bottoms Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 As my signature will state I always try and use tight choke, I currently have full and 1/2 in my O/U for close and long shots and find this fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I've got half in my auto, it stays in whether i'm down the marsh, shooting pigeons or after rabbits! If what you are using is working, just stick with it. Why mess about with a working set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bottoms Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I've got half in my auto, it stays in whether i'm down the marsh, shooting pigeons or after rabbits! If what you are using is working, just stick with it. Why mess about with a working set up? Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggs Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I've got half in my auto, it stays in whether i'm down the marsh, shooting pigeons or after rabbits! If what you are using is working, just stick with it. Why mess about with a working set up? That's the problem it isn't working, I'll try a tighter choke on top barrel and see how it goes, thanks for your input everyone :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bottoms Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Well if you can, go out on the clays and see what works for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 686 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 1/2 and 3/4 for me. Don't get wrapped up in chokes. Iv seen people changing chokes coz they think the clay there shooting is to high. Then miss and blame the chokes. Lol. If youre shot is in the right Place you're going to hit what you're shooting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) Half does the job for all my shooting Decoying, flighting, bolting rabbits, fowling, rough, driven.... But quarter, full and extra full also do the job Only problem is I can't seem to point the gun in the right place 70% of the time Edited February 5, 2013 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 686 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towngun Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 At all ranges out to 30 meters (32.8 yards) we are greatly handicapping ourselves with a tightly choked bore versus a more open choked bore. With an open choke your will kill more than you will miss. Old English game guns were always open choked. Check out the data: http://www.chuckhawks.com/where_pattern_today.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bottoms Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 At all ranges out to 30 meters (32.8 yards) we are greatly handicapping ourselves with a tightly choked bore versus a more open choked bore. With an open choke your will kill more than you will miss. Old English game guns were always open choked. Check out the data: http://www.chuckhawk...ttern_today.htm I would have thought, on pigeons for instance, you would HIT more than you would miss but not kill? Surely more lead in the centre of bird would result in more kills? Correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggs Posted February 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I agree completely with you, but every bird was stone dead I was hitting with full, it seemed strange to me too hense why I asked for input, my rizzini is fixed at choke and the open is more effective, iv put a 3\4 in the top now and its worked for me, maybe the cartridges perform better this way or maybe........its all in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 686 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I think Most fixed chokes guns are 1/4 & 1/2. I just like to use 1/2 & 3/4 it folds then at 40 yards dead in the air. And that's what we all want. So good luck and keep them dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 if its a rizzini E mine was fixed at 1/2 n 3/4 ,dont know why just how it came out of ibstock tackle n gun and that did the damage ,,being fixed chokes i had to try n point in the right direction as theres no choke change to blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I would have thought, on pigeons for instance, you would HIT more than you would miss but not kill? Surely more lead in the centre of bird would result in more kills? Correct me if I'm wrong. I think it was in Sporting Gun some time back that it was said you have a better chance at a clean kill with a more open choke at decoying ranges (I think they were refering to 1/4 or 1/2 choke). The reasoning behind it was that with a tight choke there is more chance of you hitting the bird with the edge of the pattern. I certainly found this with 32g of Eley Grand Prix no.6 through full choke on pigeons. At 30 yds I was getting either runners or very dead (too many holes in it for eating) birds. With a bit less choke there is a larger sweet spot in the pattern and generally a slightly more even spread across it. As already said above have a play on clays with different chokes and shells. Each gun will have a favourite shell/ choke combination and it's an excellent excuse to go and do some more shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caeser Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've said this before. Forget the chokes. Dave686 has said it right. I use a quarter and a half. Never change it. I was roost shooting yesterday, and there wasn't one bird inside 35 yards, due to the tree height. Several stone dead in the air beyond that range, and I always fire the quarter choke first. Just to confirm, so that you don't think I'm full of bull. I was out with PW member , limestone cowboy. He can verify it. I've also had yickdaz shooting with me recently in the same wood, also hitting really high birds without tight chokes. So don't get all caught up in the choke debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 each to there own but i have never felt the need to shoot with full choke at any quarry, 1/4 and 1/2 will do the job out to 50 yards no problem, mine is fixed 1/4 and 3/4. the auto has 1/2 choke in it and it stays in and glad of it so i don,t get bogged down changing chokes all the time, especially at clays i like to just get on the stand and call pull knowing that what i have will do the job and its the same in a pigeon hide, flight pond, rough shooting, driven etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 if im shooting crows, squirrels and foxes i like full choke in, i want them dead. If its game/pigeons il shoot with no more than half choke. Horses for courses i suppose, as long as you put the lead in the right spot it doesnt matter about chokes too much. Patterning your gun is more important in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APV Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I use 1/2 and 3/4 for pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 All this choke stuff is a load of bull, do like our wildfowling club secretary did and hacksaw the barrels off at 30 degrees and get rid of all choke. Didn't aid his shooting but the but the 3" he cut off appears at several shooting shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 All this choke stuff is a load of bull, do like our wildfowling club secretary did and hacksaw the barrels off at 30 degrees and get rid of all choke. Didn't aid his shooting but the but the 3" he cut off appears at several shooting shows. Why did he cut it off at an angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why did he cut it off at an angle? That was near enough for him, went a bit wrong during the cutting process That was near enough for him, went a bit wrong during the cutting process Or couldnt decide if he wanted a 25" or 26" !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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