impala59 Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Konor said: Hi Impala, The gun does balance very well and the smoothness of the pump encourages you to pump as you are shooting,I think they call that knowing how to run a pump in American speak. Best of luck in your quest I think that Winchester, particularly, are and have been, very adept at converting the slide linear motion to rotary via their cam, ramp, lever and pivot designs. It is always a target of mine to make my pumps as slick as possible. I really enjoy the mechanical nature of a pump gun and restoring these old 'clunkers' is as much my hobby as is my shooting Edited November 28, 2018 by impala59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) I imagine restoring old pump guns must give you a great deal of satisfaction Impala.I am restricted to buying reasonable priced guns but it cheers me to improve them where I can mostly oiling the stocks and having dents raised ,trigger pulls adjusted etc . I like owning a gun with a bit of character with a link to the past that hasn’t cost a months wages but has an appeal through shared experience linking previous owners with myself ,if that makes sense Edited November 30, 2018 by Konor Word change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) New Acquisition! A Turkish Hug San Huglu TS 870 I bought this more out of curiosity than anything else, as looking at it, it appears to be a straight knock-off of an Ithaca 37. Indeed. on taking it down and as the pictures show, it is in fact, virtually a 37 clone. Now its not all bad though, the mechanism works fine, it shoots great and it is a 26" barrel, 76mm(3") magnum, steel proof, screw in choke (Mobile I'm guessing, perhaps someone can positively identify as no markings on it). These are things that you won't find in many 37's over here. The internal machining is a little rough, but nowhere that affects the action. The Lifter/Ejector fingers are made of a springier steel than a 37 and close together more when ejecting. The wood appears to be Turkish Walnut and may improve with a little TLC, there seems to be some figuring that may 'pop' with an oil finish. The metal finish is matt, not quite parkerised! It comes to the shoulder well and has a nice rib which seems to suit me. LOP is 13.5" and would probably benefit from a 1/4" spacer (for me that is) The designation 'TS 870' (a bit unfortunate in the pump world!) is somewhat misleading as Huglu seem to use it for side by sides, over/unders et al. I wonder if this gun was maybe subject to some design or patent infringements as the current Huglu range of pumps are side eject normal Turkish fayre. It is also possible that this was made for Huglu by Norinco in China (their YL12 was another M37 clone) but I have seen one of those and this seems superior in all areas of appearance and finish. Still an interesting addition to my collection and one that will definitely get some use. Currently choked at full, I shall try and locate maybe a Cyl or Imp Cyl. If anyone does have any information on this gun I would be most grateful, the internet is bereft of anything. Edited December 2, 2018 by impala59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Looks nice that does (calling it an 870 is a bit lippy though ) Edited December 3, 2018 by throdgrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 That's crazy cool! I wonder if it's an easier source of a corncob forend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Opossum said: That's crazy cool! I wonder if it's an easier source of a corncob forend! Macon gunstocks will do a corncob and they ship to the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 They don’t do the hardware, sadly. It’s different to the type I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Opossum said: They don’t do the hardware, sadly. It’s different to the type I have That’s a shame. I wonder how hard it would be to turn one on my wood lathe? May have a go when I get a little time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 If you can make one that fits the "other" forend tube+nut style that'd be interesting. I modified a plastic 870 forend but it's not quite there. Binds up a little sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Opossum said: If you can make one that fits the "other" forend tube+nut style that'd be interesting. I modified a plastic 870 forend but it's not quite there. Binds up a little sometimes As I understand it, there are about five different forends. If you could photograph your original wood and give some dimensions, I will probably have one the same that I can match so as to check fit etc . I’m guessing that your forend metal tube is longer than the short corncob one so anything made would have to be proportionally extended so as to look ‘right’ I’ll have a think about it, it would be an interesting project, somewhat in line with one I am working on now Edited December 5, 2018 by impala59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 PM'd you about the forend @impala59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Sorry for changing the subject, I have recently acquired a Mossberg maverick a brilliant gun but it has a slug barrel with no choke , I would like an option with chokes is there a way forward without braking the bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Well, seems you could do 2 things: 1) See if a gunsmith or maybe Teague would fit screw in chokes for you 2) Get an interchangeable choke barrel. I think Saddlery and Gun Room are Mossberg (Maverick) importers ATB, Scrummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) Thanks for reply Scrumbag, Teague is £217 for cutting , one 1/2 choke and key, tmg has a barrel with chokes £210 but 28" , still would like a shorter barrel (both are a longgg way from Ilkley) Edited December 15, 2018 by steve s×s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 love the look of that gun, Im a big fan of the Ithacas, especially the DSPS which this looks very similar too. going to have to keep my eye open for one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, steve s×s said: Thanks for reply Scumbag, Teague is £217 for cutting , one 1/2 choke and key, tmg has a barrel with chokes £210 but 28" , still would like a shorter barrel (both are a longgg way from Ilkley) Odd how the prices are so similar, you’d be forgiven for thinking that a cartel was in operation 🤨 have to watch your “r’s” Steve, you’ve turned Scrummy into Scummy!!😂 As the pump club shoot never happened this year, how about making it biannual and trying for the warmer months? Any thoughts gents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 15/12/2018 at 09:20, steve s×s said: Thanks for reply Scrumbag, Teague is £217 for cutting , one 1/2 choke and key, tmg has a barrel with chokes £210 but 28" , still would like a shorter barrel (both are a longgg way from Ilkley) Sorry I couldn't be of more help buddy! On 15/12/2018 at 11:17, impala59 said: Odd how the prices are so similar, you’d be forgiven for thinking that a cartel was in operation 🤨 have to watch your “r’s” Steve, you’ve turned Scrummy into Scummy!!😂 As the pump club shoot never happened this year, how about making it biannual and trying for the warmer months? Any thoughts gents? Might be accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know where I might find an older Remington 870 wing master with the corn cob fore end? I handled one in america recently actually and it seemed lovely, don't like the look of the wood work on the newer models, and the very new models all appear no be laminate! No thanks!! Edit: pic of the wood work on the one I handed - Guns on the far right Edited January 2, 2019 by Lloyd90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Mmmm, does look nice; wouldn’t mind the SKS further down the rack. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) I have a police style forend on my Wingmaster. it's not as slim as that example but I prefer it to the standard longer Wingmaster forends. I have a similar police forend and stock set spare that i keep meaning to put on ebay Edited January 3, 2019 by Opossum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Anyone interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Opossum said: I have a police style forend on my Wingmaster. it's not as slim as that example but I prefer it to the standard longer Wingmaster forends. I have a similar police forend and stock set spare that i keep meaning to put on ebay What’s the Police one like mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: What’s the Police one like mate? Sorry about the pic quality. My spare set is a lighter wood and the stock has no checkering. I was lucky to find a police style that had a very similar finish to the Wingmaster stock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Scully said: Mmmm, does look nice; wouldn’t mind the SKS further down the rack. 👍 I preferred the fully automatic Colt M4 on the rack below! Bloody Americans 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green hornet Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Hi would like to join pump club.My remington 870 1981 genuine police model had Remington confirm it as I wasn’t to sure it being a police model.Its got the longer barrel over 24inch and a 5 shot section 1. I sold it years ago but managed to track it back down and brought it back it’s been the only shotgun I’ve ever shot well with. I had many sleepless nights wishing I never sold it 😢 seeing it in person again was like meeting an old friend 🙂 and was in exactly the same condition as I sold it. Edited January 3, 2019 by Green hornet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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