brno223 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I want a 12 bore semi-auto shotgun that will be used exclusively for clays. It doesn't have to be a dedicated sporting gun - my clay shooting is strictly recreational, not competitive. I need multichokes and the gun must handle 28 gram 2 1/2" cartridges reliably. So nothing chambered for 3 1/2" carts? And does that rule out inertia guns? Last Sunday I had a few rounds (Eley First 28 gram) through a Browning Maxus and it handled them like a good 'un, so that's one option. What else is out there that will meet my requirements? Beretta Outlander? Winchester SX3? Beretta A400? And...? Obviously the cheaper the better (less on shotgun, more on cartridges...) but price is not the major issue - I'm willing to pay what's necessary for the right gun. Many thanks for any input/advice. Cheers, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Maxus all the way , love mine to bits handles everything ive put through it so far when bought mine next choice was Beretta but think ill go for beretta when get a new o/u pretty sure the winchester SX3 is nearly the same as maxus just finish etc Edited February 8, 2013 by maxus77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I've a sx3 in 3 and half inch magnum cycles 65mm flawless and down to 21 gram if clean but 24 gram up not matter what condition on the inside I think last time it was 500 24 grams without a fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TbirdX Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Both the Mrs and my own Maxus won't cycle 65mm carts. Both failed to eject the empty shell and thus cycle the next into the chamber. You pays yer money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 With the reduced recoil you can probably go to 67-70mm cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Any modern semi auto will cycle 28g carts no problem. Try and handle a few and then make your choice. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 My 3 1/2" chambered maxus cycles 65mm no problem. Doesn't like 21g but 24g to 63g it doesn't care what it eats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 had a few 21g through my maxus only half dozen and it cycled them all suppose if was using them all time i might get issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Have a look at franchi's! There is also a Remington clay semi 2 3/4 chambered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 For what you want: A400 Excel or A400 Xplor Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Have a look at franchi's! There is also a Remington clay semi 2 3/4 chambered Yep have a look at Franchis ive had a couple,at the minute im using a 612vs good guns for the money and will cycle anything I cannot remember ever having a stoppage BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Only owned two autos, both beretta. First was a al390 and now the extrema 2 I regularly shoot just cartridges true 65mm shells without any problems. Beretta semi auto all the way (in my opinion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I had the Benelli Raffeole Crio and that cycled 65 mm cartridges without any probs and they were the Hull Comp X 21G's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I had the Benelli Raffeole Crio and that cycled 65 mm cartridges without any probs and they were the Hull Comp X 21G's. For a few years I had a Benelli Centro. It never missed a beat. I was shooting game loads through it, mostly 32 gram steel. Had I ever shot clays with it I suspect that it would have worked with the loads I want to use. But I'll never know because I sold it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 everyone has their favorite,i have a300 outlander that cycle anything i feed it,but havent used anything over 32grams yet no problems at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Any modern semi auto will cycle 28g carts no problem. Try and handle a few and then make your choice. Figgy This was my first thought also - surely all this R&D they do is doing some good!?!?!? My Mossy 930 cycles 21 gram reliably ( hull cartridge IIRC) - they come up second hand occasionally, and seem good value.... mine, new was just shy of £600 - the synthetic stock ones can be modified in all sorts of ways too - for fit, and for that tacticool type thing - if that it is you thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 everyone has their favorite,i have a300 outlander that cycle anything i feed it,but havent used anything over 32grams yet no problems at all. So you feed it stuff like Eley First? The Outlander is high on my shortlist, alongside the Maxus. And it has the advantage that it's considerably cheaper. And I've already got a stock of Mobil chokes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Any modern semi auto will cycle 28g carts no problem. Try and handle a few and then make your choice. Figgy Semi-auto 12 bore shotgun? Must handle 28gr 65mm carts. Hatsan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 i think you are slightly deluded limiting youtself to 2.5" cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Winchester Model 59 with Versalite chokes. Cycles 24 gram 65mm and subsonics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 My Urika handles Lyalvale 21gram High Velocity reliably in a 65mm case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbank Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Similar experience as WelshAndy, both my Berettas (AL390 and A300 Outlander) handle 65mm shells without problem if fairly lively. The Outlander slightly the happier with soft 65 mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 So you feed it stuff like Eley First? The Outlander is high on my shortlist, alongside the Maxus. And it has the advantage that it's considerably cheaper. And I've already got a stock of Mobil chokes.... have used different brands of 28g including eley1st never ad a problem with any brand an i like 28g for pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timb Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Just got myself a new Webley and Scott 812 semi. Its very good, and cycles 21g cartridges too. Very impressed with it. Cheap as well and a good warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brno223 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm pretty much back where I thought I'd be - it's either the Outlander or the Maxus. Lots of nice features on the Maxus, like speed load, fancy new fore-end catch, etc, etc. But is all that stuff necessary on a gun that's going to be used for clays only? The Outlander is hundreds of £s cheaper, and that's a lot of cartridges. It sounds as though both will recycle 28 gram 65mm carts - for the most part. And that's important to me because I've got 1000+ Eley First carts in stock. BTW anyone got the Weatherby SA-08? That gun's a dark horse. What's after sales service like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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