DiamondD Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hello everyone, Some of you may not be aware but the Scottish Government has introduced a proposal to licence airguns in Scotland. The licence will ban plinking in your back garden and make it harder than a shotgun to obtain. This is a totaly unjust attack on law abiding citizens. I have prepared a petition and there is a public consultation that anyone in the UK (or indeed wordwide) can respond to. The details are here: http://www.basc.org.uk/en/media/key_issues.cfm/cid/5D1AF869-D20A-446E-9564AECD44780137 this will link you to the BASC reponse template, the petition site and the facebook campaign. Please take the time to respond to this issue because it will affect all UK shooters. The Scottish Government has also made it clear it wishes to highly restrict section 1 and 2 firearms if they have their way so please encourage everyone you can to respond. The facebook page contains lots of opportunities for discussion as well as many facts and figures s it is well worth a wee visit. Thanks for your time everyone. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Ah we are starting to see Scottish Nationalism in its true colours now aren't we. You put a load of control freaks like Alex S & Co in charge, light blue touch paper and stand well back. I have already signed another petition against this but I will sign this one as well. Bloody organic oatcake munchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I say it serves them rite for voting the Scottish Nationalist in power if they get independence they will probably ban guns altogether but then that is up to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Ah we are starting to see Scottish Nationalism in its true colours now aren't we. You put a load of control freaks like Alex S & Co in charge, light blue touch paper and stand well back. I have already signed another petition against this but I will sign this one as well. Bloody organic oatcake munchers I say it serves them rite for voting the Scottish Nationalist in power if they get independence they will probably ban guns altogether but then that is up to them. A poor response indeed when all shooting people should be uniting to overturn this proposed legistlation. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 A poor response indeed when all shooting people should be uniting to overturn this proposed legistlation. Blackpowder I agree but do you think these meglamaniacs are going to listen to anything as silly as public opinion?. My mum's family are Scots (or were, they are nearly all dead now) but I always thought that Scottish devolution was a big mistake. If this gets passed it will come south eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 A poor response indeed when all shooting people should be uniting to overturn this proposed legistlation. Blackpowder well said, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I say it serves them rite for voting the Scottish Nationalist in power if they get independence they will probably ban guns altogether but then that is up to them. very well said,they want two go it a long, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosshair Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Will we then be seeing border patrols and customs offices on the Scotish border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 That is the first turn of the screw ! You mark my words ! Alex Samond is a bitter closet republican & I hope too God people in Scotland can see it before its too late ! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 That is the first turn of the screw ! You mark my words ! Alex Samond is a bitter closet republican & I hope too God people in Scotland can see it before its too late ! . You forgot he is a clown, a crafty one at that. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Yes Black powder & if the Genie gets out of the bottle I have listened to this man speaking & if you read between the words you can soon see his attitude ! for instance he made a reference to West Minster as Lord Snooty ! what bitter & childish comment from a man who is leading Scotland & too where . I for one do not trust this man ! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootinfishin Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 very well said,they want two go it a long, good luck Hardly surprising with literacy like yours down south! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootinfishin Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 We pretty much hate Salmond up here too guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondD Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sorry folks but I am a bit disapponted in the attitude of some of you. We do not all want independence, We did not all vote for Salmond on the SNP. The attitude of "leave the jocks to it" stinks. If this goes ahead in Scotland mark my words it will be attempted in England and Wales, It has already been tried down south before. Now more than ever the shooting community needs to unite. I do not own or use airguns but I have started this campaign because I know it is the thin edge of the wedge. I have been trying to get fpeople from all over the UK and indeed the world to participate no matter if you own airguns,airsoft or shotguns/ firearms. We all need to stand as one or we will have nothing left. To the guys that don't have that attitude and have joined the page and signed the petition thanks very much. Look forward to your participation in the discussion. I've been trying to cover a broad spectrum of gun ownership and laws as well as publish a lot of facts and figures so I hope you will find it quite interesting. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 First off as for the SNP if thats what the scots want then its up to them its their country, and a free vote, as for licensing airguns to play devils advocate I ask the question is it such a bad idea, time after time we read about airgun incidents time after time we see posts hailing "thats another nail in the coffin" so as said would having to get a license in order to own/ use an airgun regardless of ft/lbs be such a bad idea, surely it would show shooters with a genuine need to be responsible, just a thought. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) The problem with licenceing Air guns now is very similar to the problem they now have with firearms in America.... There's so many out there that there's no way of accurately assessing or knowing who has what. In reality you'll only get the Law abiding citizens to come forward and offer themselves up for licenceing any Air rifles they may own. The shady characters and those who prefer not to tow the line will keep Schtum, hoping that they don't get discovered. The downside for the Law abiding Air Gunners is that once they've given their details and obtained said licences, The Gov't or whoever knows who's doors to knock on if and / or when they decide that we'd better no be allowed to own Air Rifles. Things will then go the same way as it did with the Pistol shooters and all Legally held Air guns will be confiscated leaving untold ammounts of now illegal Air Rifles in the streets still in the hands of the very people they wanted or needed to remove them from in the first place. Typical Gov't response....Tackle the problem by punishing the law abiding citizen with a broad spectrum law rather than actually deal with the minority that are causing problems.. Seen it before with other things, so can't see them changing their ways to solve this one. Edited February 11, 2013 by Mk1 Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sorry folks but I am a bit disapponted in the attitude of some of you. We do not all want independence, We did not all vote for Salmond on the SNP. The attitude of "leave the jocks to it" stinks. If this goes ahead in Scotland mark my words it will be attempted in England and Wales, It has already been tried down south before. Now more than ever the shooting community needs to unite. I do not own or use airguns but I have started this campaign because I know it is the thin edge of the wedge. I have been trying to get fpeople from all over the UK and indeed the world to participate no matter if you own airguns,airsoft or shotguns/ firearms. We all need to stand as one or we will have nothing left. To the guys that don't have that attitude and have joined the page and signed the petition thanks very much. Look forward to your participation in the discussion. I've been trying to cover a broad spectrum of gun ownership and laws as well as publish a lot of facts and figures so I hope you will find it quite interesting. Many thanks. he's right you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondD Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hi everyone just to give you all an update. Petition has been posted and i'm waiting on the Clerk of public petitions to get back to me. Also send in a copy along with my response to the consultation. Myself and a few others have started the blog and facebook page Firearms UK It would be great if you guys can find the time to check it out it's full of usefull information and is aimed to help organise the UK shooting community and encourage unity within the groups to help fight attacks on our sports and hobbies. There is still the airgun licencing facebook page which can also be found with a quick search Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Will be rather interesting what they try to do in Scotland Biggist issue is Funding - I doubt if thet can ever find the Funding to Carry out reported threats Especially as UK tried with reto licensing TAC Air Guns in 2004 - Even under a Fxed Five Year Jail Term The Majority was never Licensed or Accounted For - Only time will tell - Especially as Government Fire Arms Teams are being Budget Cut around the Country And can not cope with current Legislation - with threats for further Restrictions - BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Will be rather interesting what they try to do in Scotland Biggist issue is Funding - I doubt if thet can ever find the Funding to Carry out reported threats Especially as UK tried with reto licensing TAC Air Guns in 2004 - Even under a Fxed Five Year Jail Term The Majority was never Licensed or Accounted For - Only time will tell - Especially as Government Fire Arms Teams are being Budget Cut around the Country And can not cope with current Legislation - with threats for further Restrictions - BOB/R bob, i agree with your statement, but dont be fooled about a legeslation thats introduced, then not enforced. when the money is eventually there a "crackdown" will follow. if the govt, did do a licencing scheme, and i use the term scheme very loosley. it`ll cost a fortune, do nothing and US punters will have to pay for it all. it`ll end up, like when you buy an airgun, you`ll have to pay x amount to get it registered to you. this will destroy the industry. this whole issue started when a "junkie" shot a child in the head. a upseting event, but why dont they ban illegal drug misuse? the penalties for not following the licence to the letter are a tad steep. i have an airgun, its mine since my younger days (26) i dont really have any need for it, as i`ve moved on to shotguns. but its mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolhandMal Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hello everyone, Some of you may not be aware but the Scottish Government has introduced a proposal to licence airguns in Scotland. The licence will ban plinking in your back garden and make it harder than a shotgun to obtain. This is a totaly unjust attack on law abiding citizens. I have prepared a petition and there is a public consultation that anyone in the UK (or indeed wordwide) can respond to. The details are here: http://www.basc.org.uk/en/media/key_issues.cfm/cid/5D1AF869-D20A-446E-9564AECD44780137 this will link you to the BASC reponse template, the petition site and the facebook campaign. Please take the time to respond to this issue because it will affect all UK shooters. The Scottish Government has also made it clear it wishes to highly restrict section 1 and 2 firearms if they have their way so please encourage everyone you can to respond. The facebook page contains lots of opportunities for discussion as well as many facts and figures s it is well worth a wee visit. Thanks for your time everyone. Cheers Just signed up to help drop this rediculous proposal,I just think the Scottish government are after the incoming revenue lets be honest...all UK Governments are in the **** and would in my view jump on the band wagon and have us all paying a premium to help prop up the countries defecits,if this gets the green light it wont be long before we are all penalised for owning an air rifle/gun...Grrrrrrrh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hi This WILL come to England unfortunately A mate of mine went to his local gunshop a week or so ago and the proprietor told him that he'd had a questionaire asking his thoughts on licencing airguns and how he thought it would affect his business btw, I signed the petition a few weeks ago, I believe it's been handed in as a hard copy now in the form of a book that was as thick as a telephone directory, I don't actually believe that it will do any good as politicians seem to do what they please anyhow.. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Don't suppose your mates friendly gunshop owner told him who was gathering this data did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Don't suppose your mates friendly gunshop owner told him who was gathering this data did he? He didn't say, i'll ask him when I get back to work on Tuesday.. John.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 In Shooting Trade - Not herd of any efforts from UK Offices Then spend a time and fortune sending Officers around to different areas trying to trace Air Guns Missing or used in Crimes Biggest UK Joke is Computer Systems that can talk to the many different forces trying to Enforce current laws Also Air Gun Serial numbers - Are not legally required on any Air Gun's Best ones are SMK's must out sell the rest - None have Serial Numbers on Rifles or Pistols Same with my Licensed TAC Pistols - had several visits and calls as Guns with same number as mine turned up Aware of others had similar visits and calls - Did advised Home Office @ time that serial numbers was not like Fire Arms or Traceable Even today a Manufacture / Distributor does not know who / what dealer has what numbered Guns - BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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