highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 well boys and girls, i like a few others set gill nets below the highwater mark for bass,mullet,cod,skate and turbot. last week i had 2 nets half cut loose by bait diggers, who took great offence to me catching their fish.... so the question is are you for them or against them and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I think any damage to other people's gear is well out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 i'm totally against all gill nets as i think they are indiscriminate killers of all sorts of fish,i've even seen birds caught in them, just my opinion andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 i'm totally against all gill nets as i think they are indiscriminate killers of all sorts of fish,i've even seen birds caught in them, just my opinion andrew thanks for your reply, ive been doing it for 10 years and never had a single bird in them. and i can target fish almost spot on with diffrent mesh size and depth, even the way the nets set will target diffrent fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Got no prob with short nets with a decent size gap in it. I think dropping one from a small dingy just beyond the low tide.mark.would be better. Would avoid birds etc and your bait diggers. I fancied long lining from a small boat. Good length of rope to drop a mud weight. Attatch the line to that with a marker float on each end. Row out say 1/4 mile and drop off the weight then row back to shore dropping the line out on the way back. Marker float last. Purely for personal use not commercial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Got no prob with short nets with a decent size gap in it. I think dropping one from a small dingy just beyond the low tide.mark.would be better. Would avoid birds etc and your bait diggers. I fancied long lining from a small boat. Good length of rope to drop a mud weight. Attatch the line to that with a marker float on each end. Row out say 1/4 mile and drop off the weight then row back to shore dropping the line out on the way back. Marker float last. Purely for personal use not commercial. e i have a boat but i love being out at dawn on the beach looking nets. my nets are all 100m long (comercial nets are 800-1000m) from 3-3/4 inch mesh for mullet to 6-1/2 for turbot. like i say very selective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Whats the daily catch rate for the 100m net? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Whats the daily catch rate for the 100m net? if say the mullet are in then half a dozen fish per tide. but last 10 days i had 400m of nets out and got 6 cod and a turbot for 20 tides!! its almost always less than people think. ive had the odd day when i get maybe 20 mullet and half a dozen bass.but thats rare.....very rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 sorry don't think its ethical and a cruel way to die Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 sorry don't think its ethical and a cruel way to die Deershooter the fish are almost always alive when taken from the net, much better than trawling! we wade out along the net just befor low tide and take fish (and weed,bags,tampons,toilet paper!) out of the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 thanks for your reply, ive been doing it for 10 years and never had a single bird in them. and i can target fish almost spot on with diffrent mesh size and depth, even the way the nets set will target diffrent fish i wouldn't expect anyone who uses nets to admit to having birds in them,i've seen cormorants,gulls and gannets caught in them,i've also seen nets stuffed with dead young tope, andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philm Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 the fish are almost always alive when taken from the net, much better than trawling! we wade out along the net just befor low tide and take fish (and weed,bags,tampons,toilet paper!) out of the net I hope you bag it and bin it!Keep on netting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 whats wrong with a fishing rod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Very much against shore netting ! They DO kill sea birds, they can be VERY dangerous to beach users (kite/wind surfer's,kyak users,jet ski's, swimmers, children) they play havok with shore angling, they kill lots of undersize fish, I persnoally think all shore netting should be banned. I have and will cut/remove any net's i find when fishing/bait collecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Very much against shore netting ! They DO kill sea birds, they can be VERY dangerous to beach users (kite/wind surfer's,kyak users,jet ski's, swimmers, children) they play havok with shore angling, they kill lots of undersize fish, I persnoally think all shore netting should be banned. I have and will cut/remove any net's i find when fishing/bait collecting. So you are openly admitted that you will go along and cause criminal damage to someone else hobby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I hope you bag it and bin it! Keep on netting i we take all litter off the beach with us (no the hazards thou like bog rool and tampons ) i wouldn't expect anyone who uses nets to admit to having birds in them,i've seen cormorants,gulls and gannets caught in them,i've also seen nets stuffed with dead young tope, andrew ime sorry but i dont belive you for a second. the only fish we get that we cant use or want is dogfish but they are always put back alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 So you are openly admitted that you will go along and cause criminal damage to someone else hobby? If i consider it to be dangerous to myself or other people YES ! Having spent most of my life living within 5 mins of the beach i KNOW they are very dangerous and find them very irresponsible ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Very much against shore netting ! They DO kill sea birds, they can be VERY dangerous to beach users (kite/wind surfer's,kyak users,jet ski's, swimmers, children) they play havok with shore angling, they kill lots of undersize fish, I persnoally think all shore netting should be banned. I have and will cut/remove any net's i find when fishing/bait collecting. again no they dont. their are no swimmers ect this time of year or on that beach for that matter, a 5oz lead from a beach caster is much more leathal than a net will ever be. we dont get undersized fish as they PASS thru the mesh. and who says shore anglers have the right to fish their way/ hobby but we cant If i consider it to be dangerous to myself or other people YES ! Having spent most of my life living within 5 mins of the beach i KNOW they are very dangerous and find them very irresponsible ! some one else with blinkers on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Very much against shore netting ! They DO kill sea birds, they can be VERY dangerous to beach users (kite/wind surfer's,kyak users,jet ski's, swimmers, children) they play havok with shore angling, they kill lots of undersize fish, I persnoally think all shore netting should be banned. I have and will cut/remove any net's i find when fishing/bait collecting. Lots of the other hobbies such as Kite surfing and jet ski's can also be dangerous to other beach users. I was thinking of a short net between two sections of rock when I lived in Beadnell. Between tides and only 25 foot section set out just beyond the low tide mark but never got round to it. I can also point out Beach fishing often leaves end tackle exposed to endanger wildlife and kids etc. I often find fishing line on the beach in big bundles which can.cause havoc with birds. Also you find a bit of it and You follow the line and find a hook and in one instance what was left of a codling on the hook. Follow the line a foot or two more and find a sinker wedged between two rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 again no they dont. their are no swimmers ect this time of year or on that beach for that matter, a 5oz lead from a beach caster is much more leathal than a net will ever be. we dont get undersized fish as they PASS thru the mesh. and who says shore anglers have the right to fish their way/ hobby but we cant some one else with blinkers on You sir are a complete fool ! A 5 min search will show people exactly how dangerous shore netting is ! and as for claiming that they never catch sea birds or undersized fish you are clearly lying ! there is a campain to ban them for exactly the reasons i have stated backed by some of the top scientist's and marine biolagist's in the world. The sooner it is banned the better ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markr Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 live and let live i say. youre not doing any harm so they have no right to damage youre nets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Sorry had to vote against, spent many years diving the north east coast and seeing the remnants of damaged nets continuing to keep on entangling anything and everything, rock gullies were ALWAYS covered in them,still have the scars on a hand thats got caught up in one, you sound responsible but believe me you are in the minority from my observation of gill netters. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 the fish are almost always alive when taken from the net, much better than trawling! we wade out along the net just befor low tide and take fish (and weed,bags,tampons,toilet paper!) out of the net So do you throw the Mullet back and eat whats left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul87 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Very much against shore netting ! They DO kill sea birds, they can be VERY dangerous to beach users (kite/wind surfer's,kyak users,jet ski's, swimmers, children) they play havok with shore angling, they kill lots of undersize fish, I persnoally think all shore netting should be banned. I have and will cut/remove any net's i find when fishing/bait collecting. Taking your points on board mate, but why does anyone have more of a right to do their preferred hobby over someone elses. If everyone is acting as safely and responsibly as they can then what is the problem? They play havoc with shore angling isn't a valid excuse in my books, a shore angler will normally have 2 to 3 rods and cover a wide area of shore and any experienced angler should know what to look for and where to avoid. Cutting and removing nets is criminal damage or theft, would it be acceptable if someone cut your line, broke your rod or stole it while your back was turned? I don't net but I have no problems with responsible netting for the not at risk species using a suitable sized mesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Taking your points on board mate, but why does anyone have more of a right to do their preferred hobby over someone elses. If everyone is acting as safely and responsibly as they can then what is the problem? They play havoc with shore angling isn't a valid excuse in my books, a shore angler will normally have 2 to 3 rods and cover a wide area of shore and any experienced angler should know what to look for and where to avoid. Cutting and removing nets is criminal damage or theft, would it be acceptable if someone cut your line, broke your rod or stole it while your back was turned? I don't net but I have no problems with responsible netting for the not at risk species using a suitable sized mesh. Any static net within close proximity of the shore line is a very dangerous hazzard, A friend of mine is a lifeboat man and they had a submerged net tangle the prop of there rib once preventing them from attending an emergancy call and even had to be rescued themselves, there is no such thing as safe shore netting (most of which are left out for days on end) tide and weather conditions can and do rip nets to pieces causing them to drift, it is quite common for our local lifeguards to pull them from the sea where many hundreds of people are swimming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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