Diceman Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Prince Charles could take on the winner on behalf of the Moslems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://www.telegraph...-was-clear.html The Falklands was the first thing I thought about when I found the new pope was from Argentina. I thought about how expensive corned beef is nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 I honestly think the whole thing is rather a load of rubbish, I mean really, what are the Brits doing in the Falklands anyway? A lot of men lost their lives for what? A few sheep farmers and the communities that support them. Surely if these people mean that much to the British government surely they'd flown them, their animals and their communities back to the UK years ago and re- settled them in more prosperous areas with access to better facilities and markets. The government still owns thousands of acres around the country held in councils land banks. The reason they haven't done that (apart from the people probably objecting and the cost) would've the amount of oil they are sat on. So in the early eighties, were we protecting people or a mineral wealth we can only estimate in millions of gallons of crude oil? The question has to be asked would the British government make such a stand on the land if it wasn't for the oil? History shows us that our foreign policies over the years have centred around very little else. I think that the British may have been led a merry dance as to the reasons for the islands protection. I'm not saying the deaths of soldiers was wasteful I just think the government should honest with the people on the island and the tax payer. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts1989 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 I honestly think the whole thing is rather a load of rubbish, I mean really, what are the Brits doing in the Falklands anyway? A lot of men lost their lives for what? A few sheep farmers and the communities that support them. Surely if these people mean that much to the British government surely they'd flown them, their animals and their communities back to the UK years ago and re- settled them in more prosperous areas with access to better facilities and markets. The government still owns thousands of acres around the country held in councils land banks. The reason they haven't done that (apart from the people probably objecting and the cost) would've the amount of oil they are sat on. So in the early eighties, were we protecting people or a mineral wealth we can only estimate in millions of gallons of crude oil? The question has to be asked would the British government make such a stand on the land if it wasn't for the oil? History shows us that our foreign policies over the years have centred around very little else. I think that the British may have been led a merry dance as to the reasons for the islands protection. I'm not saying the deaths of soldiers was wasteful I just think the government should honest with the people on the island and the tax payer. T We fought for it because it was OURS! They had no right to try and take it from us and it makes me proud that a member of my family fought and died protection the sovereignty of British soil. Just because its not attached to Britain doesn't mean that we don't own it. What would be the difference if they tried to take Gurnsy or jersey? They are like the playground bully, they want it because they don't have it. If you honestly think that we should just let them bully us into giving it up without a fight then I think I would like to meet you so I can bully you into giving me your phone, wallet and watch. Same thing in principle isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Well this latest statement confirms that power is at the root of the Church. Why would Pope (god on earth) care about the Falklands enough to intervene in a very human situation. Why align the Catholic church in such a way? The Church is playing politics, reflecting the burden of catholics in the south americas and for me has more important things for it to clean up first, even at home - like paedophile priests, corrupt priests cardinals and leity. Just another large leap down the road to perdition for the men in red robes with feet of clay. Religeon is bunk. If it was in the Daily Mail it must be true ......Hmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I think I would like to meet you so I can bully you into giving me your phone, wallet and watch. Same thing in principle isn't it Actually, since it is a Catholic we are talking about, it would spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch... Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243ack Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 We fought for it because it was OURS! They had no right to try and take it from us and it makes me proud that a member of my family fought and died protection the sovereignty of British soil. Just because its not attached to Britain doesn't mean that we don't own it. What would be the difference if they tried to take Gurnsy or jersey? They are like the playground bully, they want it because they don't have it. If you honestly think that we should just let them bully us into giving it up without a fight then I think I would like to meet you so I can bully you into giving me your phone, wallet and watch. Same thing in principle isn't it How did it become 'ours' originally??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 In all honesty, I can see why Argentina thinks the islands belong to them - I just happen not to agree with them. What if we make a claim for Calais and other parts of France and Spain that used to be governed by an English king? (Actually, not a great idea since that would then put an end to cheap booze cruises). Spanish claims for Gibraltar will blow up again next. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 The people who live there are no more British than say someone living in Australia these people for whatever reasons emigrated from this country to live on those islands on the other side of the world. what the hell has that got to do with us if they think that being British is so good why the hell did they leave in the first place if you are Australialian even though both of your parents was borne in Briton you have to stand in line behind Indians Africans etc etc so it is not on to say that these people are British they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimh Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 bomb the Vatican, its the only way to be sure that's why we called it a 'V Bomber' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 In all honesty, I can see why Argentina thinks the islands belong to them - I just happen not to agree with them. What if we make a claim for Calais and other parts of France and Spain that used to be governed by an English king? (Actually, not a great idea since that would then put an end to cheap booze cruises). Spanish claims for Gibraltar will blow up again next. Nick on the plus side tho...we'd have control of both ends of the immigrant pipeline and the ferries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) In all honesty, I can see why Argentina thinks the islands belong to them - I just happen not to agree with them. What if we make a claim for Calais and other parts of France and Spain that used to be governed by an English king? (Actually, not a great idea since that would then put an end to cheap booze cruises). Spanish claims for Gibraltar will blow up again next. Nick Spain have got bigger separatist problems than that coming. Edited March 16, 2013 by Gimlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 We fought for it because it was OURS! They had no right to try and take it from us and it makes me proud that a member of my family fought and died protection the sovereignty of British soil. Just because its not attached to Britain doesn't mean that we don't own it. What would be the difference if they tried to take Gurnsy or jersey? They are like the playground bully, they want it because they don't have it. If you honestly think that we should just let them bully us into giving it up without a fight then I think I would like to meet you so I can bully you into giving me your phone, wallet and watch. Same thing in principle isn't it Read a history book mate, Us 'owning' the Falklands is a bit like us owning British East Africa, Australia, Hong Kong, India and Cyprus. All belonged to us not through inherit rights but through force of the empire, which as I'm sure you will have read now only extends to bits of land we have true sovereign rights too and the bits we keep through a visible force for ulterior motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Should`nt that be "Nuke it from orbit."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Spain have got bigger separatist problems than that coming. Very true. Catalunya want self-rule as they generate a great proportion of the total GDP. In northern Italy, Trentino and other regions enjoy a higher degree of fiscal independence as that is where most of the wealth is generated. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Who cares what the Pope or the Catholic Church thinks, this is not the 16th or 17th century so the church have no say or sway in policy what so ever. Bout time the church became a shrinking violet and got its self on a righteous path first and joined the 21st century, glasshouses and stones. They can't even clean their own house. Only a bunch of paedos could think abortion after rape is wrong. Gods voice on earth but picked by mortals from mortals. No fool like an old fool. Figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I honestly think the whole thing is rather a load of rubbish, I mean really, what are the Brits doing in the Falklands anyway? A lot of men lost their lives for what? A few sheep farmers and the communities that support them. Surely if these people mean that much to the British government surely they'd flown them, their animals and their communities back to the UK years ago and re- settled them in more prosperous areas with access to better facilities and markets. The government still owns thousands of acres around the country held in councils land banks. The reason they haven't done that (apart from the people probably objecting and the cost) would've the amount of oil they are sat on. So in the early eighties, were we protecting people or a mineral wealth we can only estimate in millions of gallons of crude oil? The question has to be asked would the British government make such a stand on the land if it wasn't for the oil? History shows us that our foreign policies over the years have centred around very little else. I think that the British may have been led a merry dance as to the reasons for the islands protection. I'm not saying the deaths of soldiers was wasteful I just think the government should honest with the people on the island and the tax payer. T What and oils not important. Havent you heard, it runs the world and will run out one day. I think oil is definitely worth fighting over. Edited March 16, 2013 by unapalomablanca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Who cares what the Pope or the Catholic Church thinks, this is not the 16th or 17th century so the church have no say or sway in policy what so ever. Bout time the church became a shrinking violet and got its self on a righteous path first and joined the 21st century, glasshouses and stones. They can't even clean their own house. Only a bunch of paedos could think abortion after rape is wrong. Gods voice on earth but picked by mortals from mortals. No fool like an old fool. Figgy They are also starting with Pedophilia is an illness and should not be treated as a crime - another cardinal trying to excuse the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 In all honesty, I can see why Argentina thinks the islands belong to them - I just happen not to agree with them. What if we make a claim for Calais and other parts of France and Spain that used to be governed by an English king? (Actually, not a great idea since that would then put an end to cheap booze cruises). Spanish claims for Gibraltar will blow up again next. Nick Spain has never stopped sabre rattling over Gibraltar, several times a week there are illegal incursions in British Gibraltar waters by spanish fishing boats backed up by guardia civil and spanish navy shipsThey are also being awkward at the border with people waiting up to eight hours to cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Spain has never stopped sabre rattling over Gibraltar, several times a week there are illegal incursions in British Gibraltar waters by spanish fishing boats backed up by guardia civil and spanish navy ships They are also being awkward at the border with people waiting up to eight hours to cross. Funny how many Spanish work on the rock and commute daily, they need to wind their necks inn they don't need more locals out of work. Figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Oh how I wish we had a leader who when hearing they want to take the falklands he would just reply "they are more than welcome to try" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroku4399 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I hope that the Argy's try and take the Falklands back at the beginning of May this year as Im going down there for 2 months with my Company Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I honestly think the whole thing is rather a load of rubbish, I mean really, what are the Brits doing in the Falklands anyway? A lot of men lost their lives for what? A few sheep farmers and the communities that support them. Surely if these people mean that much to the British government surely they'd flown them, their animals and their communities back to the UK years ago and re- settled them in more prosperous areas with access to better facilities and markets. The government still owns thousands of acres around the country held in councils land banks. The reason they haven't done that (apart from the people probably objecting and the cost) would've the amount of oil they are sat on. So in the early eighties, were we protecting people or a mineral wealth we can only estimate in millions of gallons of crude oil? The question has to be asked would the British government make such a stand on the land if it wasn't for the oil? History shows us that our foreign policies over the years have centred around very little else. I think that the British may have been led a merry dance as to the reasons for the islands protection. I'm not saying the deaths of soldiers was wasteful I just think the government should honest with the people on the island and the tax payer. T It should be noted that oil had not been discovered in the Falklands in 1982. That didn't happen until 1998. We made a stand in 1982 before oil was discovered, we should still make a stand years later if Argentina attack again. The islanders want to remain British, going against the wishes of the islanders is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts1989 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 How did it become 'ours' originally??? Because we were the greatest empire. Unfortunaly the world isn't run like that now, how ever if it was Argentina probably wouldn't exist to try and gob off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 when this chap was proclaimed as the new pope , i wondered how long it would be before he mentioned the falklands , so with this new popes comment,s then the argentians think god is on their side now then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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