harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well firstly hi everyone name is lee and as the title says ive just found out ive been refused my sgc The reason..........I take a very low dose anti depressant for motivation purpose`s only but the chief officer wont have it Had my cabinet fitted and the room alarmed up to the hilt and the feo who came round was well impressed and as she was here i told her about my tablet i take (one a day) and she thought it shouldnt be a issue but how wrong can i be Im a member of basc so ive emailed them for advice B) to say im gutted is a understatement By the way im 42years old,never been in trouble,just one tablet stands between me and being about to shoot with my mate(who is my mentor by the way with 30 years experience with shotguns) Chief officer knows this aswell Any advice would be gratefull peeps. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Seems very harsh to me. I am sure BASC will be able to offer you some good advice but perhaps better to phone them rather than email. What county are you in ? I think you may be paying the price for some recent headline making police handling of the issue of SGC'S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Harry, Welcome. Fenboy has just asked one of my questions; the other, as I don't understand (probably not alone), what is,"for motivation purposes"? All being well, I hope it all gets sorted in your favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Im in Lincolnshire peeps,basically for motivation purposes is,when i used to struggle to get my lazy butt out of bed so doc put me on this tablet and it helps sort yourself out,cant work for now due to spine problem Will be phoning basc after the bank holiday but unsure what they can do ref the decision? Got the refusal letter from the police here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 When I applied for my original SGC with Avon & Somerset I remember the 'example' pdf file they used to show you how to correctly fill the form in had a diagnosis for 'work related stress' under the mental illness section. Not sure if all forces have this, but the message seemed to me to be that this would not necessarily have stopped you getting an SGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Didnt have anything like that m8ty but did have a section were you had to declare any tablets etc which i did what you get for being honest Be better for the chief to meet me in person instead of relying and a piece of paper to pass judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well at least you get your fifty quid back. Maybe it's the drug itself that you're on, on some sort of list..? Just a thought. Maybe - and no pun intended - this will motivate you to stop taking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewy1984 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Move to durham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Dont worry thunderbird ive already booked myself into the docs to ask her that very question B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Make a good case and appeal. It might mean court but you might find the experience does more to galvanise you than those stupid pills. I bet you get legal aid to boot. BTW I know one guy who is on massive amounts of morphine who holds an FAC, I do not consider him a danger just someone who suffers from chronic pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Good luck to you mate, hope you get it sorted soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Was this following your GP's advice to the authorities,or a decision made soley by your licensing authority?Do you know what consultations took place between your GP and licensing,and what your GP stated to licensing?If not it would be advisable to find out.I know of several people who have FAC and SGC and who have been consulted to their GP with symptoms of depression/anxiety. Don't give up just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 maybe the gp said they didnt think you should have a licence when they wrote to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Ill be asking for a copy of the gp`s letter when i go to see her on thursday,the licencing dept told me they needed a letter off her so be intresting to see what she wrote,if its not right ill be in touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Please do get in touch, our firearms team will need to see the letter you have got from the police, if thats OK. Much may depend on the report from the GP as already mentioned and if they have said no then that could be a very tough nut to crack, as the police will rely on this information from the GP who probably knows you best. But as said, not all is lost, far from it and further discussions with your FEO are on the cards in the first instance after the content of the GPs letter is known. Being on anti depressants is certainly not a reason to refuse, I speak from experience! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 David if you tell me were to send a copy of the letter ill get straight on to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonclay Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Some people a prescribed anti depressants for many things, migraines , clusterheadaches amongst other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Your first move is to appeal the decision, it then should progress to a formal meeting at headquarters normally not the court at this point, gather your evidence and put your case, letter from your doctor or the consultant who prescribed your medication, would support your appeal stating that you are not threat or danger to yourself or the public whilst taking this medication. A good friend of mine had this problem in another county. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hi, You could scan it and e-mail it to me - david.ilsley@basc.org.uk and i will pass it on, or you can post it to HO, marked 'Private & Consfidential' for the firearms team, with a covering letter from you, or you can fax it to me on 01244 573001 and again I will take it to the firearms team. If you pM or e-mail me your membership number I can give the team the heads up David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I had wrote a polite letter to the chief to ask for a face to face meeting,he will then see im a middle aged man with no convictions what so ever and not a looney toon i posted it sat so with the bank holiday it will be weds before he gets it at least im not hoping on it coming to much to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I was on anti depressants for 6 months due to a split and had my renewal sgc while on them and now been granted my fac to which I declared to my feo but she's cool as I'm off them she said I had no need to write it down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 As above, book yourself into the docs and build a relationship so they can form an opinion. Talk to basc and feel free to talk (not rant) at the fao to gain their help. Sometimes application is just a long process and part of your shooting career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonclay Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Doctor an anti ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry69koi Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I get on very well with my doctor so can understand whats gone wrong yet,but like ive said im at docs thursday anyway,so will get a copy of the letter she sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 If you have problems getting out of bed bad enough to need medication then I would imagine that you have mental issues.You also say that you cannot work because of problems with your spine-surely the recoil of a shotgun will not help plus the fact that shooting can be very physical.I doubt that the police look into how bad a problem you have,its enough for them to see that you have problems-period.Your doctor must hold the answer to your problem but many doctors (mine included) will not risk their reputation by clearly stating that you are fit to carry a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts