THE AD Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Six young children not allowed to live a life. Is it time we had the electric chair,scunbags like this should be allowed to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Charged with and found guilty of manslaughter, they will be sentenced today. Expect it will be a very long jail term. Less than they deserve however long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Agreed. Why do we keep people like this alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Agreed. Why do we keep people like this alive? because we need them to keep the human race going,..................... he's like a one man national breeding scheme, I'm sure he'll get his deserved inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Anyone know the max for manslaughter? I reckon he may serve 5 if they give him 10 they should get life for 6 lives a terrible crime . They got to live with this for the rest of their miserable lives but for a man like phillpot he probably can !!!! they got of lightly. Edited April 3, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debaser Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Max for manslaughter is life, but I reckon he'll get 10 years, serve 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) he could be in the higher end of the scale as there was little or no provocation unless you count his ex taking the kids and doing a bunk and they did try to hide the crime, lets hope he gets life, yep i googled it now im a lawyer. my moneys still on ten serves five which would be disgraceful less than a year per kid but for now its anybodys guess. can they give him longer for being such a scum bag? Tables: Type/Nature of Activity Sentence Ranges & Starting Point Low degree of provocation: Sentence Range: 10 years - lifeA low degree of provocation occurring over a short period Starting Point - 12 years custody Substantial degree of provocation: Sentence Range: 4 - 9 yearsA substantial degree of provocation occurring over a short period - Starting Point - 8 years custody High degree of provocation: Sentence Range: if custody is necessary, up to 4 yearsA high degree of provocation occurring over a short period - Starting Point - 3 years custody Additional aggravating factors Concealment or attempts to dispose of evidence Dismemberment or mutilation of the body Offence committed in the presence of a child/children or other vulnerable family member Edited April 3, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Total dregs, fine example of the worst excesses of a welfare state that allows the worst possible examples of our species to procreate unchecked. Its natural selection in reverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 What i hate the most is that this guy had already been to prison for stabbing his ex 13 times. Some people are just mental and frankly if they were an animal would of been put down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 They will all get Life; the judge will set a tariff (the minimum they should serve). This will be different in all three cases; I would expect Philpot will die in prison. His time will not be easy as we don't have many multiple child killers in the system. Her time will also be hard as most women she will serve with will hate what she has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Im crossing my fingers, I dont like how its manslaughter rather than murder just because they didnt mean to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 What he should get is life for each child to run consecutively seeing that life sentencs are generally considered to around 15 years), that would ensure he never gets out. She should get the same. Won't happen though, the police do an excellent job in cases involving unlawful child deaths and other crimes against children but are unashamedly let down by the courts on so many occasions. I used to think the Americans were crazy with some of the sentences they hand out, 99 years plus life e.g. When I thought about it they are not, what they are doing is ensuring the guilty never get released. No parole no time off for being a good lad, they die inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 hopefully wherever he goes the lads inside will give him his just deserts,they managed to get the soham scum twice so fingers crossed for divine retribution .he,s a boil on the backside of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 he could be in the higher end of the scale as there was little or no provocation unless you count his ex taking the kids and doing a bunk and they did try to hide the crime, lets hope he gets life, yep i googled it now im a lawyer. my moneys still on ten serves five which would be disgraceful less than a year per kid but for now its anybodys guess. can they give him longer for being such a scum bag? Tables: Type/Nature of Activity Sentence Ranges & Starting Point Low degree of provocation: Sentence Range: 10 years - life A low degree of provocation occurring over a short period Starting Point - 12 years custody Substantial degree of provocation: Sentence Range: 4 - 9 years A substantial degree of provocation occurring over a short period - Starting Point - 8 years custody High degree of provocation: Sentence Range: if custody is necessary, up to 4 years A high degree of provocation occurring over a short period - Starting Point - 3 years custody Additional aggravating factors Concealment or attempts to dispose of evidence Dismemberment or mutilation of the body Offence committed in the presence of a child/children or other vulnerable family member Agreed. It'll be the higher end of the scale. It will certainly be life, I would think, and will probably serve at least 15 years. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Im crossing my fingers, I dont like how its manslaughter rather than murder just because they didnt mean to do it. You can't be convicted of murder unless you intended to kill or do GBH. I think their plan was to stage some miraculous rescue or something (not sure as I haven't been following it closely) so it would be difficult to prove that they intended either of those things. Whatever the sentence it will be a very long one. As someone has mentioned, he is likely to die in prision and rightly so. J. Edited April 3, 2013 by JonathanL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 What he should get is life for each child to run consecutively seeing that life sentencs are generally considered to around 15 years), that would ensure he never gets out. She should get the same. Won't happen though, the police do an excellent job in cases involving unlawful child deaths and other crimes against children but are unashamedly let down by the courts on so many occasions. I used to think the Americans were crazy with some of the sentences they hand out, 99 years plus life e.g. When I thought about it they are not, what they are doing is ensuring the guilty never get released. No parole no time off for being a good lad, they die inside. I don't accept that. The courts merely apply the law and can't sentence people to terms which are not provided for in law. Having said that, I'm not aware of child killers getting unduly lenient sentences. Ian Huntley, after all, is doing a minimum of 40 years. Realistically, he will never get out. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 You can't be convicted of murder unless you intended to kill or do GBH. I think their plan was to stage some miraculous rescue or something (not sure as I haven't been following it closely) so it would be difficult to prove that they intended either of those things. Whatever the sentence it will be a very long one. As someone has mentioned, he is likely to die in prision and rightly so. J. I sincerely hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdix22 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 You can't be convicted of murder unless you intended to kill or do GBH. I think their plan was to stage some miraculous rescue or something (not sure as I haven't been following it closely) so it would be difficult to prove that they intended either of those things. Whatever the sentence it will be a very long one. As someone has mentioned, he is likely to die in prision and rightly so. J. I believe the idea was to set the fire,rescue the kids and then get rehoused in a larger house. The father is a scroate,plain and simple.I lived not too far away from that estate in Derby for a while and had mates who actually lived on that same estate.Basically he is a waste of oxygen Hopefully the judge will have his head screwed on right and give them all the maximum sentance available but I guess its all in the hands of the gods at this moment in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingRebel Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Look at the guy's extremely violent behavoir in the past, i really hope he goes away until he dies. A deranged sociopath like that is too dangerous to be allowed to roam free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Firing squad for all three in my book.....they could look no further than here for volunteers to form one. The crime, although it went wrong, was pre planned and those poor kids were a tool,A means to an end to get what HE wanted. Disgusting that the tax payer has had to fork out for these sad uneducated individuals in the past, Pay for their trial and now will probably end up forking out hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep them alive in jail. Far better to get value for money with a tenners worth of .308 ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Child killers be it accidental or not never last long, and that is to long in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdix22 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Judge has put off sentencing until tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 so if a dog bites a child it gets put down, this scum murders 6 and gets to live, bring back hanging and treat him like the animal he is put him down colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 They will all get Life; the judge will set a tariff (the minimum they should serve). This will be different in all three cases; I would expect Philpot will die in prison. His time will not be easy as we don't have many multiple child killers in the system. Her time will also be hard as most women she will serve with will hate what she has done. That's pretty much the long and short of it. You couldnt really get higher up a bored, fed up lifers hit list without being a sex case. He is going to have a hard time, and I have no sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 What he should get is life for each child to run consecutively seeing that life sentencs are generally considered to around 15 years), that would ensure he never gets out. She should get the same. Yep,couldn't agree more. I sincerely hope someone 'gets to him' inside and then all the state has to fork out for is a funeral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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