viking Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 whilst out shooting today and putting out my decoys, i found this coin sticking out of the ground, i dont know if its of any importance, or who i should inform of the find, the battle took place in 1461 so it could be quite old. and help and advise much appreciated. thanks, lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Looks like an Elizabethan Shilling. EDIT: Some googling suggests it might be a Groat or half Groat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 It looks like its Silver so I believe under current treasure laws it must be reported. Remember a while back someone being prosecuted for selling a silver coin even though they found it before the law change...can't sell it now either without say so it seems. Dont take this as gospel though...i'll try and do a google for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) Wow, great find - I assume it's silver. It's strange to think that just a year after the coin was minted England tore itself apart in the Civil War. Edit: sorry misread the date, 1461 became 1641 in my brain. Edited June 23, 2013 by FalconFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Looks like you are safe mate.... The Treasure Act of 1996 is an Act of Parliament designed to deal with finds of treasure in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. It legally obliges finders of objects which constitute a legally defined term of treasure to report their find to their local coroner within fourteen days. An inquest led by the coroner then determines whether the find constitutes treasure or not. If it is declared to be treasure then the owner must offer the item for sale to a museum at a price set by an independent board of antiquities experts (Treasure Valuation Committee). Only if a museum expresses no interest in the item, or is unable to purchase it, can the owner retain it. 'Treasure' is defined as being: All coins from the same hoard. A hoard is defined as two or more coins, as long as they are at least 300 years old when found. If they contain less than 10% gold or silver there must be at least 10 in the hoard for it to qualify. Two or more prehistoric base metal objects in association with one another Any individual (non-coin) find that is at least 300 years old and contains at least 10% gold or silver. Associated finds: any object of any material found in the same place as (or which had previously been together with) another object which is deemed treasure. Objects substantially made from gold or silver but are less than 300 years old, that have been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovery and whose owners or heirs are unknown. Under English law a landowner has sole title to any archaeological artifacts found on his or her property. Legitimate metal detectorists come to an agreement with the owners of the land they detect on to share any proceeds from treasure sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 zapp, i think your bang on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Nice find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgguinness Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Wow! That's amazing. What a great find, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Hi Viking Where abouts are you based? (Posting from phone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 what do i do with it? will it be of interest to someone. and of cause, is it worth anything Hi VikingWhere abouts are you based? (Posting from phone) leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 what do i do with it? will it be of interest to someone. and of cause, is it worth anything leeds eBay it and put the money towards a metal detector lol. Guess it must of been pulled up by the plough, sweet find. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Seen them between 40 and 75 quid on tinterweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 http://www.silver6pence.co.uk/category-elizabeth-i-----1558---1603.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 so is it a shilling or a sixpence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Don't look in 3 bad shape either mate. A buddy of mine is well into this stuff does a lot of detecting looking forward to showing him this. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 You'd be best taking that to a local museum or similar to get a proper opinion before thinking prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Just a thought, but if you found it on a farmers field, is it not the farmers ? I think when metal detecting they need permission (which i assume he they havent granted even though you wasn't actually looking or it) and need to split the find depending on what's agreed with the land owner. There also might be others so if you know someone with a metal detector..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 sounds right the staffordshire hoard man got half n the farmer/landowner got half dont know the legals but im sure when they were interviewed they both were equal owners under the treasure rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 im sure my farmer will be well chuffed with his half of £40. i will tell him when i see him next week. im going to get in touch with the battle of towton trust/society and see if its of any use to them. im not really bothered about the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Beware of who you tell as I have a Roman fort on one of my permissions and I have scared a few " Night Hawkes" when I walk around in my ghillie suit after dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Towton.. Just up the road from me at Garforth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Silence on the exact whereabouts would be good, we see loads in a field near us and they just help themselves to whatever they find, the site is near an ancient Roman fort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 The coin belongs 100% to the landowner unless you have a previous agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 what do i do with it? will it be of interest to someone. and of cause, is it worth anything leeds Remember that if you don't own the land on which you found it then you don't own the coin. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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