My dog attacked by another today whilst on public footpath.

[overandunder2012]

if i had my way every dog in public places should have muzzles then none of this would happen and people could still let dogs of leads, trouble is if as it stands if you muzzle your own dogs it just puts them at a serious disadvantage if attacked by others. a tazzer would be perfect

Edited October 26, 2013 by overandunder2012

[scotslad]

My lab got attacked many years ago by a cross bred rescue thing, My dog was off lead and walking to heel

 

But the bottom line no matter how well behaved and trained ur dog is if it is not on a lead it can be viewed as not being under control either (even when it was) usually if 2 dogs off lead its a case off 50/50 no matter how much we all know the other caused it, there owner will only claim urs caused it.

 

Surely if all dogs were as badly trained/socialised but muzzled but allowed to run where ever they wanted off lead u would have kids knocked off bikes and scratched/mualed, be just as truamtic for a young kid or adult

 

Theres not a lot u can do about it, it wil continue to happen and probably get worse as people have less and less idea how to train and handle a dog

 

Gordon does have a point or 2 but in the situation i would also have lashed out, no doubt about it, but i can also see the logic behind the argument that it is muzzled so can't really harm u or dog

[subsonicnat]

Yes, The police do take notice,it would be bad press if they didn`t..

Where I used to live 2 foreigners had a big dog, my mate picked his yorkie up and the dog then bit the hell out of him..

advised to go to the police,, he was bleeding... They found them and warned them, next time it would be put down..

Now thats the way to go..

[Bleeh]

If it had happened on one of my perms when I was out it would of been a lot worse.

Hey Matt.

 

I know you are joking, but you would certainly loose your gun licenses and probably face a court in this scenario.

 

[Imperfection]

Yes, The police do take notice,it would be bad press if they didn`t..

Where I used to live 2 foreigners had a big dog, my mate picked his yorkie up and the dog then bit the hell out of him..

advised to go to the police,, he was bleeding... They found them and warned them, next time it would be put down..

Now thats the way to go..

 

The only time the Police will look into a dog attack is if it has bitten a human.Dog on dog is a civil matter and they dont worry about bad press!

[strangford wildfowler]

If I was out with my dog and this happened to blaze ( my dog) I would have done the exact same, oh and lord help the attacking dog if I had my shotgun with me.

[vampire]

I have had other dogs attack my sick german sheperd (now passed),all attacked him and all got the boot from me and all were off lead in a public place and not under control.

If the dog was dangerously out of control in a public place and you felt threatened,then thats enough to have the dog seized and put down under the dangerous dogs act,........if a reasonable person felt threatened,fact,a bad and old law that needs review,but thats all it takes.

[jimdfish]

I'm afraid for every 'decent' staffy/ bull terrier owner and well adjusted dog there are 30 bad ones in waiting. To me its an utterly pointless breed, mostly owned purely to intimidate other people or give some spotty scroat an ego boost.

As a fellow cocker owner I offer my sympathies, they're a sensitive and intelligent breed, I hope this doesn't leave Bess with any issues.[

 

Your statement holds no water, 90 percent of dog breeds are redundant. I have three staffs, I neither need an ego boost, nor do I need to look any bigger than I am. I am not spotty or a scroat.

You have a cocker, get a proper spaniel, like the proper size springer. It does everything your dog does and more. ( sweeping statements are not great, are they)

[southern]

Report it to your local dog warden, would be helpful if you knew where this woman lives or regular times she walks her dog, otherwise as good a description as you can give of her and the dog. At the very least it's at least on file and if a second incident occurs she could end up with a Dog Control Order being put on her/the dog stating that it has to be walked on a lead at all times.

 

You can find the contact number for your local warden here:

 

http://www.animalwardens.co.uk/lost-found-dogs-search/all-dog-warden-phone-numbers

 

Sorry to hear about your dog, hope that walk isn't ruined for her. Someone tried to steal my brother's dog out on a walk once, she broke her collar getting away from them (black lab in the dark) and she refused to walk in that area for months after it happened.

[mick miller]

 

I'm afraid for every 'decent' staffy/ bull terrier owner and well adjusted dog there are 30 bad ones in waiting. To me its an utterly pointless breed, mostly owned purely to intimidate other people or give some spotty scroat an ego boost.

As a fellow cocker owner I offer my sympathies, they're a sensitive and intelligent breed, I hope this doesn't leave Bess with any issues.[

 

Your statement holds no water, 90 percent of dog breeds are redundant. I have three staffs, I neither need an ego boost, nor do I need to look any bigger than I am. I am not spotty or a scroat.

You have a cocker, get a proper spaniel, like the proper size springer. It does everything your dog does and more. ( sweeping statements are not great, are they)

 

Your dogs are one of the more redundant breeds, bred for fighting. Mine isn't, it's bred for hunting, retrieving and flushing game, all completely useful and current, all of which she performs perfectly. Each day my dog is used for dogging in, it's a working breed put to work. Where we are there are pockets of thick cover and brambles that a springer cannot enter, hence the sensible choice of a cocker. Smaller and perfectly capable and game to enter thick cover and flush birds.

 

I think, if you consider it, it's your argument that holds no water.

[mick miller]

I also stated in my next post, that it was merely my opinion btw.

[westmids1987]

I also stated in my next post, that it was merely my opinion btw.

But to be fair you stated that staffies are a pointless breed because it can't be used as it was initially bred for,what about the other qualities it has as i previously stated?i supose it depends on what you look for in a dog?urs is a working dog mine is a pet and member of my family so dosn't 'need' a specific purpose other then being a dog

[jimdfish]

My staff lily works very well. She flushes, she retrieves and she loves the kids to bits. Mop used to spend all her days at the David Lewis centre in Cheshire helping kids with learning difficulties and epilepsy. She never eat any of them. Not a one.

[RUNCEMOUNT]

955i would have shot it.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2013 by RUNCEMOUNT

[Gordon R]

What smart remarks?

 

 

 

 

In answer to your first:-

 

Gordon, you are talking out your ***** I'm afraid

 

 

I haven't got a clue as to where this came from - a quantum leap in logic without a scrap of evidence.

 

Yes, we can assume that the owner knew the dog would be aggressive, she muzzled it.

 

You claim to have had dogs that you muzzled even though they weren't aggressive, why would you do that?

 

I resent posters who refer to someone "claiming" to have done something. I did it - I didn't claim to have done it. I have had a number of quite large dogs - GSDs and Akitas. A couple of them were big, fluffy and attracted attention. I tired of people approaching us to stroke the dogs or let their kids manhandle them. The muzzles were to protect people from themselves. If you poke a dog in the eye, I suspect it might bite you. Now that isn't a quantum leap.

 

Perhaps you should stick to something less complicated.

[mick miller]

She never eat any of them. Not a one.

Brilliant!

[Gordon R]

jimdfish - it's a shame that people make rash generalisations about Staffies, whilst normally saying that their own breed of dog wouldn't harm a fly.

Edited October 26, 2013 by Gordon R

[westmids1987]

jimdfish - it's a shame that people make rash generalisations about Staffies, whilst normally saying that their own breed of dog wouldn't harm a fly.

+1 ive yet to meet someone that has owned a staffy and doesn't love staffies,but i suppose what people read in dail wail is more accurate then those opinions of people who have actually owned a dog of that breed

[mick miller]

I'm not saying she wouldn't harm a fly, but it's pretty unlikely she'd deliberately attack any dog or person, I'm saying that owning a breed bred for fighting seems a little pointless, and perhaps it shouldn't be too much of a surprise when those dogs exhibit aggressive tendencies toward people or other dogs.

 

Gordon, you cannot possibly have not noticed the almost ubiquitous ownership of a certain type of dog by a certain type of person? It's perhaps rather unfair to tar every owner with the same brush that much I do admit.

 

I had one friend with two staffs, both treated equally the same. One, the bitch, was as soppy as anything, the dog however was an utter nutjob, I never took my eyes off it when it was near and wouldn't have trusted it as far as I could have spat it. Neither were ever abused to my knowledge, but even the owner didn't trust it around other dogs.

Edited October 26, 2013 by mick miller

[Imperfection]

I'm not saying she wouldn't harm a fly, but it's pretty unlikely she'd deliberately attack any dog or person

 

You might want to do some research on Cocker rage syndrome then.

[westmids1987]

 

You might want to do some research on Cocker rage syndrome then.

Looked into this myself,rare but scary possibility in cockers no matter the upbringing or training,luckily the only cocker in my family has no teeth so think i'll be ok with him lol Edited October 26, 2013 by westmids1987

[Gordon R]

Mick - I have noticed chavs with Staffies, but a few good friends have Staffies which are great with their kids.

 

The most aggressive dog I have seen in some years was this morning. A couple of pensioners had a large dog - probably 26" at the shoulder and weighing about 120lbs - looked like a Bulldog on stilts. I asked them what it was - they said it was a Bulldog.

 

I have never seen one looking remotely like this one.

 

The woman said it would lick a burglar to death and was great with their grandkids. Me and my mate had gone no more than 10 yards - I had just been passing a remark about cross bred dogs - when we noticed the gentle leggy Bulldog launch into a small terrier.

 

It went bananas. The terrier owner was less than happy and a few pleasantries were exchanged. This was in a market with a fair number of people there.

[Imperfection]

Looked into this myself,rare but scary possibility in cockers no matter the upbringing or training,luckily the only cocker in my family has no teeth so think i'll be ok with him lol

 

It still does happen though.I only know of one Cocker which had it and was eventually put to sleep.

[Catweazle]

A staffie might not feel pointless if you lived in a small flat on a crime riddled estate, and perhaps you'd like to take it down to the chip shop with you too.

 

I recently listened to a broadcast about the psychology of different dog breeds, and as part of the testing they got an actress to act in a tearful manner near the dogs. The staffie was the only breed to regularly visit the actress to investigate, and also appeared concerned.

[scotslad]

A staffie might not feel pointless if you lived in a small flat on a crime riddled estate, and perhaps you'd like to take it down to the chip shop with you too.

 

I recently listened to a broadcast about the psychology of different dog breeds, and as part of the testing they got an actress to act in a tearful manner near the dogs. The staffie was the only breed to regularly visit the actress to investigate, and also appeared concerned.

 

Dunno wot broadcast u heard but they fairly recently showed a similar test on that wonders of dogs on bbc2 and ALL the dogs responded to a stranger crying not just staffies, some breeds where friendlier (dunno if that's the correct term) than others and staffies were among the friendliest but they were not the only breed.and were not themost extreme either.